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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    The land was an eternal gift. An eternal life is eternal. It is not fulfilled. Then stopped. The gift of God is irrevocable.. God gave them provisions for living in that land in lev 26. They are currently scattered because of lev 26. But lev 26 says even after that, if they repent, God will...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Just because they understood they were to look for something better, does not mean the actual promise God gave to them here on earth is to be ignored. Or rejected. Its convenient for you to not want to talk about that promise. Because then you can ignore what was said. And continue to believe...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    What did Paul say. Did he not say many of THEM rejected Christ? read what I showed again. Your argument is not with me The nation rejected him. But not everyone in that nation rejected him.. He separated Israel from saved gentiles. Isreal as a nation rejected God. and through their...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    how can anyone possibly know that?
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    yep we are the promise,, in you shall all the nations of the world be blessed. we who are of the faith of abraham (romans 4) are the children of that promise also. but we are not talking about THAT promise. we are talking about the chosen nation and land promise.. We are NOT part of that...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    well thank you for proving you do not read very well. If anything, it most likelyu shows how you read the word. here I highlighted the words for you. whats even more amazing is you failed to refute my reading of how Israel is the chosen and elect. the them Paul spoke of.. Not the church...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    they do not understand, If God will not keep an unconditional promise to them. There is no reason to think he would not break his promise to us. in which case. there is no basis of faith one could ever have.. it would be wishy washy at most. because if we fail..
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    Or lets stick to context. Romans 11: 11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    you know where it appears. The gifts and calling are irrevocable Why you fail to comprehend is that every eternal gift that is given is what is irrevocable. Your trying to twist the word to suit your hatred of Israel..
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    I believe ETERNAL life is eternal.. I believe when God says we are sealed UNTIL the day of redemption. he means it I believe when God says we will NEVER perish, he means it I believe when he says he will NEVER lose one of his. he means it I believe when he says NO ONE (we are someone so no...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    when you see the word ETERNAL. you can assume it is irrevocable you want to play games.. You just hurting yourself.. When God says he will. he will. otherwise. if he will not keep his own promises. what kind of God is he?
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    its sad people do not have faith that God changes his children and makes them new..
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    agree no, this is not true. he was a dog. he tried to play like he was not a dog. but since he was a dog. he returned to his true nature. a dog eats his vomit. God said he creates us into a new creature. why do you not believe him..We are no longer dogs.. or swine.. lol. It says a dog...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    What does the Bible say about Grace and Good Works?

    they did not have the gift. We know this, because God said on the day you eat, you will die. They were spiritually alive. and they EARNED it,. because they were without sin. no one, with the exception of CHrist, has been in that relationship with God since. for all have sinned and fall short...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    What does the Bible say about Grace and Good Works?

    if there are requirements for the gift. then it is not a gift. when anyone is given a gift. it is paid for by the giver. he gives the gift to the one he loved. It does not mean the receiver will receive the gift.. they can reject it. and in doing so. will not receive the benefits of that gift...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    what will it take for you to see? how many times must it be explained to you? a Dog is a dog. when a dog is saved. he is no longer a dog. he is made into a new creation. So he does not act like a dog. because he is no longer a dog. a dog returns to his vomit, because he was STILL a dog. he...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    The prophets tell us clearly. God will take the 2 sticks and form them together. and they will become one nation again. and never again to be divided. The two sticks are Joseph in the hand of ephram, and the stick of Judah which are now dry bones (because of their unbelief) ez 37: 21 “Then...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    thats not true romans 9 - 11 is Paul explaining why it is that God did not make a mistake in chosing Israel. Romans 11 is the culmination of that discussion. to show that although Israel is blinded in part (this alone proves that it is national Israel in context. not spiritual Israel) there...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    irrevocable means it can not be revoked. God gave the childrten of abraham a plot of land. and said he would be there God and they would be his people. these same people who Paul said are hated according to the gospel (because at the time they rejected the gospel) but beloved according to the...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Why Old Eschatologies Should Be Updated

    funny how you totally ignore the OT the gift was the land of canaan. the calling was to the people of Jacob. the promise was eternal. and irrevocable That is the context of romans 11..