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I know they do But as John said, they (unbelievers) were never of us, if they had been of us they never would have left. but they left to expose the fact they never were of us (were never true believers)

I see it differently We are clean by the word. But we get dirty sometimes. and we need to wash up. That's the sanctification process A new believer probably does not even know every possible sin he could commit.. As he grows. He starts to learn his sin habit and issues. And part of...

if this must be true, we have not been saved period. we are still in the process of trying to save ourselves. No one says take your gift back, unless the person who gave the gift proves to be untrustworthy. Since God will never fail us. no one would ever say, take your gift back. Unless they...

Notice if we (fall short or miss the mark) willfully Get off the english text and do your research. If I interpret hebrews like you do. I have a major contradiction with John. That puts the whole bible in question. (this is not the only issue with your belief that does this. just so you...

Actually no. CHrist did not die for that. Thats why there is no more sacrifice. lol. see there you go stuck on personal overt sin again, You have the pharisee mindset. You think because you have never commited adultry your ok.. Well the pharisee thought the same. There is only 1 unpardonable...

Your problem is you do not understand what sin is. The word sin literally means to miss the mark. To many people think of sin as committing adutry, watching porn. Murder stealing etc. But sin is much deeper than this. Sin is flesh. it is looking to self and putting your needs above another...

The sin here is the sin of rejecting the gospel. if you reject the gospel. there IS NO SACRIFICE FOR SINS. the hebrew people were continually rejecting the gospel and trying to mix law in grace. as doing so. they were WILLFULLY SINNING. John said, IF WE SAY WE HAVE NO SIN. There is no way to...

I think of Jesus words to Peter John 13:10 Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.” we need to wash our feet from time to time. Yet we are completely clean (in Christ)

I did not understand what he was trying to say

this post makes no sense at all. what are you trying to say

Then we are not saved by grace. We begin in the spirit. but must perfect in the flesh. And paul calls us fools for even contemplating that. lol. My friend. I do not see how you can claim to have repented. you think you have power.. IF WE!!!! John included himself John told us, If he at...

You have totally misrepresented the word Romans 9 - 11 is Paul answering the question, Has God made a mistake choosing Israel No persomn has ever been saved by the law. It requires perfection. No one But Christ attained that feet.

You can;t say it is true, then deny it is true This is talking to the gentile church. God did not spare Israel. when they rebelled. If we turn as a church. He will not spare us either.. He is not talking about induviduals I do grasp it. If works are involved. It is not of grace It becomes...

Nonsense. Who has overcome? He who believes (faith) Then we are saved by grace plus works. Not grace through faith. You have just destroyed the gospel message. Wrong. We are saved eternally by grace through faith. not of works. lololololol Oh boy.. If it is of grace It IS NO LONGER OF WORKS...

by the way, there is NO SUCH THING as BELIEF only salvation. we are saved by grace through FAITH. faith and belief are not the same.. Many believe yet have never seen God. and unless the repent, never will

hey brother There is too much I in your post. Anytime you see or use the work or speaking of self. You are taking glory away from God. and trying to take it for yourself. God will nto share his glory with you my friend. Your washed by the blood. Not by your works. if it is grace, it is no...

Amen He who began a good work WILL (not might) complete it By one offering he perfected FOREVER (Not initially) those who are being sanctified Jesus said they WILL (not might), never die

I would also like to see proof that such people exist.. Especially people in this chat room..

Sadly, He is fighting a doctrine he hates (OSAS) and his hate and pride has him refusing to look at people he is attacking to see what they really believe You can not talk to people like that

it is funny he sits there and tells us what sinners we are. While he continually day after day breaks the command "you shalt not bear false witness" Typical pharisee