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Lol....I didn't arrive at my monicker 'quietthinker' because of verbal diarrhea sbg. Most yada yada i hear does not motivate me to join in...in fact most of it has me wanting to get out of there quick.

Mike... Yes, I find it embarrassing as well. I've concluded that God has people in these fellowships but the practices they engage in does not draw me. For me God is a God of order without display. I have never felt at peace in those surroundings.

well, there you have mans primary M.O.

I think what you have shown re the end times Keraz is a hotch potch of misapplied scriptures. The foundations of the leaning tower of Pisa is testimony to inadequate or faulty research by the builders.... in the same manner, the exegesis you put forward has blind spots and a misunderstood...

The I's, Me's and My's are indicative of where the focus is.

Keraz...brakelite said 'ten criteria' ....you have interpreted it to mean 'fulfilment of the ten kings who are prophesied to rule the world, all at one time' ...I would reconsider.

If the climate change issue due to mans involvement is objectively real I don't see any significant moves globally to reign in its stated cause. Belief in it whether real or no however, can be a catalyst to pass laws yet unheard of with the agenda of justifying more control.

for what its worth, living in the tropics has definitely seen the seasons change. Dryer for longer, wetter for longer, extremes in rainfall, extremes in heat. The foreshore where I am is being eroded. Since I first came here in the early eighties, what was the edge of the forest is now sand...

quietthinker said: ↑ 1.....'If you love me keep my Commandments' ....or do you doubt that the cloud that followed Israel was none other than Jesus? Exodus 14:19, “The angel of God, who had been going before the camp of Israel, moved and went behind them; and the pillar of cloud moved from before...

'If you love me keep my Commandments' ....or do you doubt that the cloud that followed Israel was none other than Jesus? Look a little closer I see you mention 'eternal laws' ... that is precisely what they are Only required to keep their outward actions holy????.....I'm sorry CL, that is...

Surprisingly, I would say its the other way around. When Jesus said affirmed 'love the Lord your God with all your heart' and stated 'love your neighbour as yourself' he was doing none other than repackaging the ten commandments and breaking them down further into two concise packages. The...

GISMYS-7 said What would Pete Buttigieg Think, SAY and Do If he ever read 1 Corinthians 6:9 I say, What others think is not your business. .....be mindful of what you think say and do!

It kills wickedness because it is righteous and men's actions are evil. What you're wanting to do is get rid of what is righteous so that evil men can go on with impunity even be rewarded. It is quiet clear to me you are pushing the enemy's agenda off handedly attempting to to make God's Holy...

How can fresh water and foul come from the same spring? A tongue that blesses God and curses men should not be.

There we go, Moses, the obedient servant did as was asked and delivered its transcript and as you well know, he was not the originator of it... 'And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I...

I'm sorry, that is not my tradition.

Really, did Moses give the Law?? Are you not familiar that sin is transgression of the Law? Have you not read that death reigned from Adam to Moses? All those destroyed in the flood were for what reason? Does a transcript bring the Law into existence? Can you not join the dots?

yes, you could go on and invent any matter of scenarios plainly ignoring that the wages of sin is death and sin is transgression of the Law. I guess in order to make your position work you have to redefine Sin as well as God's Law which not surprisingly is what the system your allegiance is to...

Jesus is speaking to all who superimpose their traditions on Gods Law and so negate it. How is it that this is not obvious even though he is addressing the Pharisee's?.....you know, the respected religious teachers. By the way, any practice that insists on tradition in preference to God's Law...

Now that's a clever way of negating God's Commandment.....the responsibility rests with you.