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1 Thes. 4 says those who sleep in Jesus.

Your John 14 verse is not the secret rapture, but the second coming of Christ.

One does not have to believe in a secret rapture to believe in the second coming of Christ.

The "Angel of the Lord" is a title given to the pre-incarnate Christ, as the Word in human form. Jesus was also the "burning bush." He was also the fourth person in the furnace with Daniel's three friends. He is actually neither an angel nor a bush. And Michael is an archangel and not to be...

There is no where that scripture says that the alive saints come back with Christ 7 years or 3 1/2 years later, only that when Jesus returns He will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. In other words, those who have already died.

Well I can certainly see what is error and what is scriptural

Well, I know where mine are from, even if you are a doubting Thomas.

I read his list of "heresies" and I flunked 2! And personally I don't know what other Charismatics believe on them, nor Pentecostals. I just know what I, personally, see in scripture.

But whoever started this site already deemed what is heretical and whom.

No, that's not what I'm talking about. You see, I also debate with Charismatics and Pentecostals.

I'm not sure why you think that is just Pharisees seeing as the apostles were too. That would apply to Pentecostals today too. Do you believe the apostles or Pentecostals are wicked?

I see that is where you got some of your terms I had never heard of before. I can also see from what they called "heresies" they wouldn't accept scriptures I stand on.

Is it free, or monthly charge?

I didn't see any forums, just articles.

I had never heard of CARM so looked it up. What they say are "heresies" I take it this is a Calvinist organization?

That is true about the Jews, but the content is actually FRUIT and can apply to us. This seems to be a dichotomy. How can one be truly born again and NOT love one another? Jesus said it is the world who hates us. 1 John 3:23 1 John 3: 10 In this the children of God and the children of the...

So true! Here I thought the dizziness was from too little meds and needed more! That's what I get for thinking!

I was on a high dose of blood-pressure meds. and my new cardiologist told me to cut mine in half, because I was constantly dizzy. (Boy, did I just set myself up? :D)!

Exactly. Our authority. But that doesn't mean our fruit/actions won't show the truth. But what do you think about the Russians who ran? Are they still saved just because they didn't stay for the Lord? They could have just set up shop/church somewhere else.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Many of those who ran out the door still believe OSAS, so why die now?