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Its never been conditional. If it is It is not of grace. It is of works.. Y0u want to try to earn salvation. Good look. You will be like the millions who thought the same as you and try to call our your works in christ name on judgment day. Who do not like Jesus answer

Salvation from the time of Adam has been by faith. You either trust God or you trust self. Those are the only two options. The tax collector called out to God because he lost faith in self and realised his sin and bancrupt heart. Just like I did 40 some years ago. I pray you did.

How? He who believes is not condemned He who believes not is condemned already. The tax collector went home justified, while the legalist did not. Why?

Justification. The tax collector went home justified. He emptied himself and got on his knees and cried for Gods mercy. Justification was paid completely by the price of redemption. Santification, We are positionally sanctified (in christ) forever (eternal life), We are conditionally sanctified...

if you do in order to recieve, you are working for a wage (payment) or a reward (again payment) Salvation is a gift. Salvation is also recieved by Grace (unmerited favor) Grace can not be earned. so if your working to try to earn. then you are rejecting grace. Its actually quote simple

where does it say what? That eternal life is forever. (john 3, john 4, john 5, john 6 etc etc etc.) that we will never die (john 6 and John 11) Does God keep his promise. or is God make promises he does not intend to keep?

Those people are not thrown into the fire. WHy do you resist the promise of God and wish to instead try to earn something you can not earn?

did they ever have eternal life. or did they have conditional life? If they were saved. Did not the same jesus tell them they would never die (John 6)

15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, Next..

αἴρω (contr. fr. poet. ἀείρω); fut. ἀρῶ; 1 aor. ἦρα, inf. ἆραι, impv. ἆρον; pf. ἦρκα (Col. 2:14); Pass., [pres. αἴρομαι]; pf. ἦρμαι (Jn. 20:1); 1 aor. ἤρθην; (on the rejection of iota subscr. in these tenses see Bttm. Ausf. Spr. i. pp. 413, 439; [W. 47 (46)]); 1 fut...

15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away (lifts up); and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me...

For those who actually care to study. In John 15: 2, the word "taketh away" in the greek is airea, which literally means to lift up, to raise from the ground, to raise upwards, to elevate. etc etc. It is a term that people in Jesus day would readily associate with taking care of fruit bearing...

Um no they do not. They do not teach one is saved eternally, then works follow They teach one is sort of saved initially. But must keep working to ensure that salvation is completed. We are justified only by the work of Christ on the cross. And the work of the spirit in our lives to draw us to...

The bible teaches those born again will never die and have eternal life You teach conditional life The bible teaches that it is either grace or works. It is not, nor it is ever, both. In fact, it says one cancels out another You can post these long winded posts all you want. You can label...

Yet from creation it is the most widespread gospel on earth. Its sad after thousands of years. we are so weak and gullible we still fall for the same trap of legalism and pride.

The word inittially is not in those passaged In eph 2. he says we HAVE BEEN SAVED In romans 4. he speaks of Abraham being saved by faith period not by works. In romans 11 destroys your argument, It is either by grace, or it is by works, It can NEVER be of both Titus 3. again. We have been...

Not sure I would judge someone who wanted to get ink. I would not personally do it. But to judge?? I have sin, so I can;t cast the first stone to me there is more important issues to work out than if someone gets a ink or not

Actually. No yuo did not. what you did is You just caused the bible to contradict itself.

Yet you label me and T-Bass. You are being dishonest my friend. Both of you teach our essential salvation is accomplished by works. Just because you add the word initially (not found in scripture by the way) does not mean you teach different. There are three gospels found in the world 1...

Not of works lest anyone should boast. Amen