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The thing to remember is Abraham was justified by faith. Granted, He showed his faith by his works. But he also had some prety grave sin also. He did not always trust perfectly. But he was saved by grace through faith. The NT says we, who are of the faith of Abraham, are saved the same way...

I think of a pharisee when I hear this term..

Excuse me sir The penalty of sin is death. Not being good. Gods standard is perfection. You have not made it. I have not made it no one has. If your going to try to stand in front of God by how good you are. You will not like the outcome.

I think adam and eve and food was perfect. so there was no waste. Waste is a result of sin..

again, not true Our faith is in the work of God. Thats why it is his work. not ours. As jesus said, it is the work of God we believe. Not our work.

if this is true, Then we are saved by works, not by grace.

No one CAN be justified by obeying commands. Because by those same commands we are in need of being justified. because we have failed to be obedient using Gods standard The ONLY obedience one can do is to receive the gift of life through faith. which is obeying the gospel He who believes is...

Pride is a hard thing to break Thats why Jesus says we must become poor in spirit to enter. All pride must be shed.. A worker has to feel they did something, that's why it is so hard for them to repent

Got to love how people ignore romans 4. and continue to chose James, who in his writing was discussing mere belief vs true saving faith. as a means to justify their working for salvation

lol You keep denying the facts of life If your working to EARN something, it is a work of merit If your working out of gratitude, out of love out of expecting nothing in return. It is a work of righteousness. Spin it however you want. Your preaching salvation by works Salvation is by GRACE...

Yep. Let’s listen to men, and not to the word. Actually, the catholic principal of do not think for yourself but listen blindly to us is really no different than the jewish way of doing things. We see the fear of even Mary and her children trying to protect Jesus because he protested the jewish...

Excuse me sir But that post does not refute the fact that 1. Nicodemus spoke of water as it concerns to birth (mothers womb) 2. Jesus spoke of physical birth and water when he mentions being born in the flesh 3. Jesus did not mention baptism in vs 14 and 15, when he first explains HOW one is...

As painful as it is when they make every excuse to not see it

That’s awesome!

One can say you had a paul like experienced. You thought you knew God because you followed the jewish faith, handed down through the centuries. But then God came to you and called you out. And you met The god of heaven. Rejecting the god of man.

The word Kai What @Marymog fails to comprehend. Is jesus already told nicodemus one had to be born from ABOVE. (Spiritual) Nicodemus asked Jesus. How can a man enter once again into the womb of his mother (water) Jesus is telling him simply physical birth is not enough. Once must be born...

My men? Is this all you can come up with? You keep focusing on what Jesus said must happen You totally ignore how jesus said it happens. Once again, You have not even been baptized. So please do not try to attack me on baptism. And claiming I listen to men. When it is you.

This just shows your lack of knowledge of the greek language. BAPTO means to dip BAPTIZO (add the IZO) Means to immerse Revelations has jesus comming with his robes dipped (Bapto) in blood) Keeping it real? You were sprinkled, Not baptized (you were not even dipped - Bapto) Moses washed...

BULL!!! Thats what you get for listening to men, and not studying for yourself Bapto means to dip, to be dipped. Baptizo means to be fully immersed as apposed to being dipped. Thats why Baptizo is the perfect word for what happens to a child of God. They are fully immersed into the death...

Nope You were sprinkled (rhantizo) you where not immersed (baptizo) Unless you are different than any catholic I have ever met. You can deny it all you want. I already explained what the greek word means. What you got does not line up with the greek word. You got what a church perverted the...