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In 1 Cor.15 where Apostle Paul taught the "last trump" in conjunction with the resurrection of the saints, he also did the same thing in 1 Thess.4 with "the trump of God". BOTH Scripture examples involve the event of the resurrection. And the resurrection he was talking about is the...

You are definitely in confusion.

1 Cor 15:50 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. KJV 1 Cor 15:49 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. KJV The resurrection body is a...

Actually, Paul is... saying there 'are' (present tense) two different bodies. Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 revealed this early on in God's Word. There it is taught that with flesh death our flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, and our spirit goes back to God Who gave it. And shown there is a...

Only those confused about the day of Christ's coming to gather His Church don't know those are both the same trumpet.

Study Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14 where God is actually describing Lucifer's rebellion in coveting God's Throne. No flesh born man is an "anointed cherub that covereth" that was in God's Garden of Eden. The sin in 2 Thess.2 that Paul was showing that Wicked one will do is the very sin that Lucifer...

Ah... we don't have to worry about that, because Jack has been caught pushing a LIE, the false Pre-tribulational Rapture theory that came out of 1830's Great Britain by John Nelson Darby. Jack was leading thousands... to 'death', with teaching that false pre-trib rapture, because a fake...

The "gospels" (plural)??? There's only ONE Gospel of Jesus Christ. Now there are different ADMINISTRATIONS of that same Gospel. Christ's Kingdom will be right here, on earth, not up in the clouds. He is coming to earth... in the clouds, not staying in the clouds! Even Rev.20:9 shows the...

Here's what you said: Then you provided a link to Livius for that quote, which that source is bogus, since Livy (i.e., Livius) died around 17 A.D. The Romans didn't do sacrifices in the temple, period. Thus the "abomination of desolation" from the Book of Daniel was not... fulfilled in 70 A.D...

I don't see that written in God's Word. The Scriptures that declare the "day of the Lord" declare a destruction from The Almighty upon the wicked, and those left of the nations that came up against Jerusalem are then shown having to come and worship from year to year, as per Zech.14. Peter...

Our Lord Jesus told the truth. Unbelief on Christ Jesus as God's promised Saviour means death of the soul-spirit. Flesh is not something that is saved. We all shall cast off our flesh, either at flesh death or at the 'last trump' change on Jesus' return. This unbelief by Israel makes no...

So how was Abraham saved? since he didn't live after Christ's death and resurrection? Peter told us with the "spirits in prison" that Jesus led out of the prison house, which was prophecy in Isaiah 42 that He would do that. But do you really think Abraham was there as one of those 'spirits in...

You bet I am, for good reason too on Christian forums like this one. It's too... easy for the non-Christian to come here and post. There really aren't any filters, and some of those are very sneaky. I already gave you my take on Paul's "strong delusion'. "Apostle Paul's idea of the "strong...

Just a note. The ten lost tribes of the house of Israel truly are... still lost, technically. The Book of Hosea reveals this. This doesn't mean they no longer exist. It simply means they are still hidden in the world today. Most of them still don't know they have a heritage from old Israel. God...

That's correct. The Luke 16 example cannot be used as an example of eternal torture, because Jesus was giving descriptors about that place (hades) during this present world time. And during this present world, the only... ones already judged and sentenced to perish in the future "lake of fire"...

No, that was not the point. You are trying to now change... the point. The original point was your supposed idea that the Romans fulfilled the same sacrifice example that Antiochus IV did in 165 B.C., which is why you quoted the Roman historian Livius. Oh, by the way, Livius (i.e, Livy), died...

You shouldn't leave out the Matthew 24:28 version of our Lord Jesus' answer at the end of Luke 17... Matt 24:28 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. KJV

So, does that mean whatever you hear in this thread that you don't agree with, you're going to assign as being a theory? Is that the REAL purpose of this thread? And what if there are more New Testament verse witnesses to show what it is than written in the OT? Are you Jewish Orthodox or...

And my point is that if one has to rely on what SOME OTHER MAN SAYS, then they are relying on them for their UNDERSTANDING. That is exactly... what many here do! They don't really study enough for themselves, but they just absorb whatever someone says that is popular (like Jack Van Imp). You...

The OP topic is about deception in these last days. And one of the subjects was about our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Though Preterists and Historicists treat our Lord's discourse upon the Mount of Olives there as history and having been fulfilled, in...