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I pray you study this passage more. Jesus is talking to people who understand what a winedresser does. There are vines that do not produce fruit. What the vinedresser does is he “LIFTS UP” the branches that are on the ground, because they are being chocked. He then cuts off the dead branches and...

Before I go any further. I want you to look at what you said. Justification. The term is a legal term, it means to be declaired innocent of wrong doing. In the greek, it is actually the same word also translated righteous. I am righteous (declaired innocent or justified) by the blood of christ...

Sorry my friend but I disagree wholeheartedly with you Israel’s sins were not cleansed and because of it ad 70 happened. Which was also prophesied would occur in the OT and God would then seek the gentiles. Which has happened for the past 2000 years and is still happening scripture must be...

That would make no sense.

You wrong in saying god tortures anyone he gave them an out. They rejected it

I stopped reading halfway through. Please learn to break up your posts your first part is why Christianity is so divided. Lake of fire hell gahenna. Whatever you want to call it you say it’s not hell. Others say it is. who cares. It’s all the same place as for a torture chamber. That’s what...

They equals Israel they will all know me. when you take Israel out of the equation you make the word nonsensical

Um no Israel LIVIN in peace. Yes Israel OWNING the land. NO! The abrahamic covenant was a non conditional covenant Only the mosaic was conditional

You did not answer my question you did not answer my question. Has all the world seen Gods salvation yet? Is the man who precedes Jesus a literal person? What is said in the middle has no bearing on interpretaint what was said literally. We find out what it means by looking at the two...

Has all people seen Gods salvation yet? and yes it would be useless because no one can claim if it came true or Not we can all make our own interpretation

No one is saved because they kept the Ten Commandments, because no one has. And if your going to say worshiping the wrong God. You better look inside. Because you could be just as guilty. Then why do you offend him by making him a mere mortal? Lol. The soul of the human called Jesus existed...

Rev says those who do not make it to heaven are cast into the lake of fire prepaired for satan and his angels. Thats EVERYONE who is not granted eternal life The worm never dies is a symbol that whoever is there will be there but they will never cease.

Again, to me, this means you are trying to save (justify) yourself. Not getting down and letting God save you. Again he is talking about sanctification. Not justification. Jesus said he lifts up the branches and cuts away the dead and burns them. That is pruning us. As far as Colossians goes...

Your right, we must accept those. If jesus says this, We can’t look later in the NT where someone says something else. And focus on those words and not what Jesus said. The problem I see is 1. we have justification. (By one offering he has perfected forever) 2. Then we have sanctification...

If we are saved by ius doing. Then we save ourselves. Its not God clinging to us and keeping us as he promised I cling to God to be blessed. I depend on him to cling to me and my hope is the fact that I have the seal of the spirit as a pledge of his unfailing love. If I can lose salvation for...

Actually Jesus will deny those who reject his eternal gift of salvation. The trinity and what one believes will have no bearing on ones eternity. Three headed monster? You better pray your right, if your not. Imagine how you just offended him. God is a relational God. He created beings to be...

So what is the lake of fire which was prepared for satan and his angels, where Jesus will cast all who have rejected him at the great white throne judgment? You do believe in this do you not?

Sadly it is the state of the church today. We blindly follow our posters or priests or popes or whatever. It was not perfect back when it was created. Look at all the epistles of paul and others and you can see the troubles and infighting and false teachings that ran rampant. And we want to...

I am sorry my friend, I can not have a discussion with you. You can not see your own flaws When you learn some humility come talk to me, I think we could have some good bible disussion.

Amen, The church IS THE WORD OF GOD. It is the ONLY thing that is inspired. And the only thing we can trust, we can not even trust ourselves. Thats why Jesus ALWAYS sent people out in two. Most churches do not even abide by this instruction.