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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Romans 11:25 - Partially blinded

    I believe in free will, so I really don't know what you're talking about and I've lost interest in this discussion at this point. Thanks.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I suppose you could call it that. We believe that Christ's wrath will come down on His enemies right after we are caught up to meet Him in the air. So, we see 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:3 as one event that Paul also referred to in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3. But, he was saying...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Don't give him any ideas! He might see this and run with it.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Romans 11:25 - Partially blinded

    I don't understand what you're trying to say here. I already said there is no partial blindness and that everyone is either blind or not, so why would you ask me if they're in the partial blindness category that I already indicated that I don't believe even exists? If someone is not saved, as...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    His version of pre-trib is even more ridiculous than the normal version of it because he believes in 5 raptures. I've never seen a more ridiculous interpretation of 1 Thess 4:14-17 than his. It very obviously portrays the dead in Christ and those who are alive and remain being caught up together...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    What is wrong with you? This is a serious question. There's something in your mind that causes you to misrepresent post-trib. Why do you do it? It's probably because you are using a different definition for the word "tribulation" than the rest of us. He, and those of us who agree with him about...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Agree. Someone couldn't make up more ridiculous nonsense than this if they tried.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    He's obviously just making things up to make scripture say what he wants it to say. It's sad to see so many people here who are so dishonest with scripture while just blatantly twisting it to fit their false doctrines.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Such a weak response. I'm not sure what you are asking here. Those who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord are obviously still alive when He comes. And Paul said they, together with the resurrected Christ, will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. How in the world can you turn...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    And what religion is that exactly? You're not being very clear here. And, if this was spelled out for us, as you imagine with your literal approach, then why don't we all agree on this? I also asked you the identity of the beast and you didn't answer that question. Weak response. Back up your...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Romans 11:25 - Partially blinded

    To me, it's very obvious as to what the partial blindness refers to and it can be seen in what is actually written in Romans 11. Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Oh, really? So, tell me the identity of the woman who rides on the beast with seven heads and ten horns and tell me the identity of the beast. Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    You know I was joking, right? I was, of course, referring to the rapture of the church.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Are you aware that there is more than one way to be redeemed than just bodily? Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    No, I'm not saying that at all. You have no reading comprehension skills whatsoever. You need to go to school and learn how to read. Jesus will return at the 7th trumpet in the future. In no way, shape or form did I say that the 7th trumpet sounded at the cross.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I didn't know that the rapture happened even before the flood. Never heard of the pre-flood rapture theory before. Interesting. :wink:
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    His posts are full of one liner comments, no exegesis whatsoever, and then he declares himself the winner of the debate every time. It's hilarious! He couldn't be any more delusional if he tried. He is completely in over his head here and is oblivious to that fact.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why do you act as if those are separate events? That is ludicrous! You are clearly trying to make scripture say what you want it to say. 1 Thess 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    All of the translations agree that the time of the dead being judged comes at the seventh trumpet. How do you reconcile that with your doctrine? Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Show me where it indicates that the 144,000 have immortal bodies before the return of Christ (the third coming of Christ in your view, I guess). Amils agree that He comes after the tribulation (Matt 24:29-31) and before His wrath comes down, so why are you calling his doctrine error when he...