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Oh my, Behold you REALLY need to read past the 4th and 5th chapters of Romans. Stop leading people astray. You don't understand Paul at all. The whole study on sin and the Law is eight chapters long!!! From Romans 1 through chapter 8!!! You are basing your whole doctrine on chapters out of...

@forever-living-spirit Welcome to the forums. Yes, giving our whole selves to Jesus, and He to us. 1 John 3:23-24

God's law is not against killing, but against murder. I would have done the same thing as Jack Wilson to SAVE LIVES.

Yes, isn't it nice to have a functioning brain? ;)

The glorification process is during our life and has to do with our nature. That becomes perfected now. And our body gets glorified after our resurrection. Paul distinguishes between the flesh and the body. The "flesh" is our old nature. The new man is not in the flesh (the old man's carnal...

Glorification is becoming perfect. We are already sinless.

according to my nature.

I thought I did until you said you were on the same page with Behold.

I certainly do not want to entertain it, because I would be constantly depressed. So I am glad that time is past, and I am forgiven.

I agree, except I call it glorification now, not sanctification. Sanctification has the connotation of continual justification, getting over our old nature to sin. That was taken care of when we were born again of the Spirit. Many believe glorification is future, but I believe that is the...

We are under the law of the Spirit. Those under this law don't commit murder in the first place. That should have been your answer, because that is what I thought you believed. I guess you are like Behold. :(

I believe when we were justified and all our past sins were forgiven, at the same time we were sanctified, set apart unto good works. You see, I no longer believe the process we go through during our life is called sanctification like most of the Church does. I kept seeing it as past tense, so I...

I've been reading what your last few posts were, but I want to wait for your answer to my last post #143.

Question: So if that Christian that commits murder and never repents, first, was that murder a sin, and are they still saved?

My fear is that you do not know what Behold believes. You are not on the same page. At least I hope not.

Don't you know the REASON for being born again and filled with the Spirit of Christ??? It is so there won't be any FUTURE sins to be forgiven.

Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.

You must read Romans 4 in context to the 8 chapters it is in. You will see the answer in the last chapter. Romans 8:1-9. Chapter 4 and 5 are merely build-ups to the conclusion. We are no longer under the law that had to be kept with a sinful nature. The law of the Spirit of life in Christ, has...

Yes, I agree with this. I would just like to explain the bit about not being saved by works. The Jews received the Law, the Ten Commandments to guard them until Jesus came to take away our sin - for which the 10C were given in the first place - to show us our sin. So, just keeping the 10C by our...

Our body is still mortal and will die due to Adam's sin. But once dead and resurrected, it will be changed, in the twinkling of an eye to put on immortality, to match our immortal born again nature that changed when we were first baptized in the Spirit, that used to be the carnal flesh/the old...