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As He said later on, He was sorry that He made man. "Of course He already Knew" Which brings up another topic....all the way to Noah....to start over again.

All so true... The question I asked was not so answerable... What they did...more or less happens everyday, except in their case the whole of humanity was judged. So, do we know exactly? The vague and metaphorical nature of the story does not give the details. We do know that they sinned and...

Christianity as a religion, as a denomination, as a church of one, as a belief system....tomatoes....tomotoes. Whatever floats your boat. The term Christianity was coined in Antioch, then Paul used that term and term saints. Saint Ignatius of Antioch first used the term "Catholic Church"...

Who said instead of?

Saint Ignatius of Antioch first used the term "Catholic Church" (literally meaning universal church) in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans around 107 AD.

Talking to the wrong Catholics

You are trying to say, somebody is doing something...we can go with that...something somewhere was doing what? The Catholic Church was organizing in the first century and has been an organized Church since. The Churches of Asia, we can look at their differing beliefs. Around 325 the councils...

Give them some names.

Worshiping Mary...most of them will tell you no. Now is there a fine line between praying to and worshiping? The Bible is not going to tell you anything about Mary's visitation. And if you are looking at the Bible only just leave the whole issue alone. God is telling them to do the things they...

This is what I am talking about when I say the Fundamentalist climb fence, don't know what they are looking at or know what is going on. These are Christian events and miracles after the first 65 years. These people do not think she is a God. God communicates through her and she has done several...

I will disagree with that.

Because Mary is in league with Satan?

Now what does that mean

Ok, knowledge of good and evil....Hmmm. Knowledge of good and evil acquired by eating the fruit of the tree. Not a normal way for humans to get an education....if so I would be the wisest man on earth lol

Are we ever going to stop disobeying?

Start with, what did Adam and Eve do that was so bad that God judged all of humanity on their error? Just two people. He could have just killed them and started over. What did they do?

The moral to the story of the Paradise of Delights is a good debate. Over all, calling it the down fall of Man....is a good overview....the rest is debatable.

lol I think you have that a little out of sequence....

Of course you are not going to fine the term "Original Sin" in the Bible and it would be easy enough to find a conversion about babies with sin, or that a sin passes to their children. As I noted in the other thread, the Mosaic Law did not require a sin offering for conception or pregnancy...

lol What do think happens when a baby dies? Sin by definition is a transgression against God. Except for pooping their diapers that is about it for them. In the Mosaic Law you will not find a sin offering for contraception. You will find a sin offering for birth because of the vaginal fluids...