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YOU know nothing of the gospel You cant do anything to earn it before you are saved you certainly can not do anything after to earn it It is solely of grace through faith period. As paul said. Are you foolish.

I have asked I have looked at the whole picture I have shared the whole picture with you. You keep ignoring the words of God and the apostles and making them liars. if we are secure ONLy if we do something, then we are trying to earn salvation by our works. or as paul calls it the flesh. At...

So you do not think hell is forever?

There are a lot of guilt to pass around here in both the Roman and England church, even the church I grew up in did some questionable stuff. I just wrote it off to these are my leaders and they know more then me so I just looked away I think we get brainwashed by leaders and blindly follow...

John did not lie so you want to make John a liar and Jesus a liar, then call me a cult you have pride issues my friend, you want people to have conditional life. Well that’s fine, God gives eternal life, so I will seek out God, because you have nothing to offer me

Sad, man can be so evil in the name of God

The believer HAS eternal life, you keep wanting to give him conditional life, the PERSON who turns away in unbelief, was never a true believer John makes this clear.

If your not eternally saved, your not saved period,

Jesus did not lie, What he said in Matt 8 and matt 22 is true. But what he said in john 3 and john 6 is also true. My Cult? I am not the one who called jesus a liar. And has no faith in him. Stop being a pharisee. and join the true family of God my friend.

then non of those things are true If you can die AFTER being given eternal life. It is not eternal life If you can die AFTER eating the food which endures forever. then Jesus lied If you can be DELIEVERED to Christ not raised by him after eating. then Jesus lied. If you can be lost after you...

Jesus? He said we have eternal life. Not conditional life. WHY don't you trust him? He said all the father gave him he would never lose He said whoever believed in him would never die. live forever. has eternal life and will live as long as he lives. I can go on and on. But we know it will...

That’s funny God instituted the 7th day as a day of rest. i see no place where that was changed, as for a day of worship, god told us to worship every day in spirit and truth, yes, the church did meet on the first day of the week, but that was not a sabbath day, that was a day of worship

It’s sad how many times an op is destroyed by hate, and we call ourselves children of God :(

As for you Desire. If Jesus did not pay for your future sins. You are doomed for all eternity the moment you commit your next sin (which most likely happened mere minutes or hours after you got saved) and there is no more hope for you The penalty of sin is death. Without the shedding of blood...

Yep he did they knew Jehovah was preincarnate Jesus because they knew Jehovah would be sent by the father and the spirit is 48

Your a true fatalist alright. And I leave you to your folly when you start telling people what they meant you lose any semblance of respectability I leave you to your fatalism.

does not prove it is YOUR church Stop listening to men.

A physical body moves it talks. it sleeps it stands it runs it falls it does all kinds of stuff I looked. I have not found church standing around..

If it is grace it is no longer works. otherwise grace is no longer grace If grace must be maintained by our work. it is not grace. The fact we still walk this earth is but the grace of God. God could snap his fingers and give us all what we deserve. Its sad you think you deserve anything...

Go ahead and put us on ignore. You will be held accountable for your lack of faith in God and trying to make his GIFT of life a reward that can be earned. You may be sick of us. But thats fine. The pharisees were sick of Christ teaching the same grace we teach, in fact they crucified him for...