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  1. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Are you guys playing dumb or is it not a act
  2. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    They call them the hard sayings of Christ. And the Apostles have a few. And no I am not perfect.
  3. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I have no trouble with paradise. There are people that will form a whole religion on one scripture. What are you going to do with, you must hate your mother and father to be a disciple of Christ? Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Selling all that you have is a...
  4. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    No contradiction. Christ and the Apostles said to believe and be baptized. If that does not happen it is between you and Christ. Where is Paradise? You are saying that Christ went to heaven and back to the tomb, resurrected and then ascended to heaven. There is nothing in the storyline that...
  5. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Absolutely not. I am not saying that. I am saying that Christ and the Apostles said to believe and be baptized. If not it will be something that you will be judged for. What reason would you give Christ why you did not get baptized? What reason would you give Christ for thinking it was not...
  6. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I believe in the Gospel. When some one tries to pervert the word of God I take exception. Then again, many times I have pointed out that final judgment is up to Christ.
  7. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I have already answered these questions more than one time and more than one way. The things that Christ and the Apostles said to do, you should do....anything less for any reason then it is up to Christ to decide your fate. Not that you will go straight to hell if you do not get baptized or...
  8. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Dead serious! Again and again I keep saying that in the end Christ will judge the circumstances. And all these attempts to "dodge" the words of Christ and the Apostles is in vain. They give no if's, no and's, or but's. There words are final and stand as truth. Do you judge their words?
  9. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Dodging the question! How many ways have I put this. Do you need braille or smoke signals, or bongo drums! Saved means saved from something. In no language does saved mean ticket to anywhere. No matter what, your passage to heaven is up to Christ. Some people think that all judgment occurs the...
  10. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    The process for salvation was told by a God…Yeshua. Then retold by the Apostles. Then retold by the Early Christians. It is down right ignorant for someone to stand up 2000 years later and discount the words of Christ and the Apostles. 2000 years later somebody got it right! 2000 years later...
  11. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Not my way...Christ's Way. I could care less. This is the reason I say you cannot read the scriptures like they are the latest edition of the Sunday Paper. What does belief mean in that culture? What does faith mean in that culture? Christ and the Apostles told them to believe and be baptized...
  12. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    30 English Bibles...wrong about what? Satan is a schemer...nothing would entertain him more than for some to believe but not do what Christ said to do to be saved. No where in the Bible is baptism said to be an option. You preach anything else and you preach what is Anti-Christ...Anti-Gospel and...
  13. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You guys keep wanting to put words in the scriptures. Assuredly is not in the scriptures either. Truly more or less means truthfully or matter of fact. But then you have to figure out what Paradise means. Going to heaven and then coming back to earth in the tomb, then resurrecting and then...
  14. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Well there ya go....you can try to slip words into the scriptures but all people have to do is read them and know that the words saved and heaven are not in that storyline.
  15. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    lol Yeshua did not go to heaven until after the resurrection. Yeshua was not headed to heaven.
  16. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    No, the thief on the cross went to paradise....no mention of heaven.
  17. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Oh....I have read your past posts. So tell what you have to do to be saved? Do you believe that belief alone saves you...baptism and communion are not required?
  18. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Somethings are simpler than others. This one is cut and dry. There are complex topics in the scriptures, this one is not complex. God in His infinite wisdom setup the scriptures so that no matter what translation you read, salvation is laid out in simple terms. Satan does not like that! So he...
  19. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    It all comes down to if you believe what Christ said. Or if you believe you have authority that over rides what Christ said. So for what I have seen of you is that you preach an alternate gospel so accursed you are.
  20. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Ok I will dummy this down for you. The answer is no. No if's, no and's and no but's. Some people think that all judgment occurs the moment they believe....they forget about judgment day. If a man sitting on a log decides he believes in Christ and dies immediately, he is not saved. If a man...