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  1. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Your doctrine goes against the Scripture presented. Fact is, God DOES consult - even if he has no need to, he chooses to.
  2. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Since God does not change, we can only conclude that God takes people's input still and that Moses was not a unique exception. Regarding your truth-o-meter; I like your analogies. Mine is like a parent whose plan is to spend the day playing with the kids. The parent asks the kids what they want...
  3. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    I have no problem. You are the one who seems to split things for reasons that are unclear. The Kings Scripture referenced in the OP clearly shows God asking - and then acting on the answer he got to his question.
  4. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Except for the MANY exceptions, there are no exceptions. Didn't God agree to spare Sodom if there were a decreasing number of righteous people? And if it is as you say, why did Jesus ask for his friends to be cared for in John 17? Since our input has no effect, why ask God for things? Why pray?
  5. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    Council means here what it means everywhere. No one ever said God has need.
  6. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    You got me. I must have fat fingered my repeated reference to the verse cited in the OP where God asked the Council, then acted on what they said.
  7. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Great point! The process flow is critical to understand the topic of Soul Sleep. 1st, God made a body. Then, he put his Spirit of Life into the body. As Jesus said, give unto God what is God's.
  8. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    You pasted a copy for me to read? What nerve?! I posted it in the OP. Clearly, your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Here is another verse even more explicit. The way of God, the way of the Eternal, in this translation is to solicit and act on what the Heavenly Council suggests. It's so...
  9. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    You are in complete and total denial. You do not have eyes to see. Make a blessed day For 1 Kings 22:19-20 presents God soliciting options from the council and acts on the answer one gave to him about what to do - to achieve his end, God's Will. The fact that the verse is about a king is...
  10. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    OMG! The triune fallacy again. Paul talks about how the body has many parts. That does not make us a poly-une being. Why did Jesus say people who died where sleeping?
  11. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    There are no souls in heaven. Most of the saved are not going to heaven.
  12. Wrangler

    Trump

    I stopped keeping up with facts when I grasped axiomatic analysis. Consider the following: Abortion Gun Control Religious Liberty Mandatory Coronavirus Are you going to tell me that people, including yourself, should change their political opinion based on a new set of facts? If so, you make...
  13. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    My formula is correct. Yours is not properly reduced. A person does not have a soul; a person IS a soul. The soul may die. The God-given spirit returns to whence it came. People who talk about ‘immortal soul’ uses words incorrectly for the Bible not only talks about death but 2nd death. That...
  14. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    No. SOUL = SPIRIT + BODY. This is demonstrably the case in understanding language usage. The following are equivalent expressions. 100 souls were lost at sea. 100 people were lost at sea. People don’t say 100 bodies were lost precisely because, as Paul said, our bodies house our...
  15. Wrangler

    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Are we going to be resurrected as Sprits or bodily?
  16. Wrangler

    Does God Consult Other Heavenly Beings?

    See OP. Odd how some people ask questions previously answered.
  17. Wrangler

    Trump

    It’s a fancy way of identifying the foundational principles, liberating one from complicated facts and procession of logical trains of thought. Before retiring my pastor exhibited axiomatic analysis when she proclaimed she does not need to know all the details of why family members are not...
  18. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    You asked a question. I gave an answer. Your way is not to accept other people's answers, which begs the question of why you ask. You are part of a cult under both sense of the word.
  19. Wrangler

    Trump

    Axiomatic Analysis. It is NOT about a point of view, as in, how does the flower look from your point of view. It is taking opposite sides of the issue on deep and profound philosophical grounds. The debate is as old as the country itself. The Hamiltonians, modern day Liberals, value Economies...
  20. Wrangler

    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    Feel free to consult your favorite lexicon. However, a cult, by definition, is a group who worship a man as God.