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Friend, I made no argument. Perhaps you do not even understand what a philosophical debate is or involves. All I did was to point out what the verse does NOT say. I created a thread some time ago that differentiated between verses that merely ‘support’ a doctrine one has before reading...

Here is the problem: what you wrote is completely disconnected from the conclusion this thread is intended to support. The reference to glory supports the idea that Jesus is God how? If you want to use the maxim “all glory to God” to pivot, you should say so. However, what would still be...

Strawman Argument. To avoid making an argument for the proposition you favor, you attack the opposing proposition. No matter how weak the alternative hypothesis is, it does not support the proposition you are advocating. What you are saying is a variant of 'my idea is right because the opposite...

An esoteric question. Not sure how you are parsing the difference. I’ve said both before, taking the sentences as synonymous. Maybe, ‘Jesus died for us’ is simpler but avoids the nuanced point you are attempting to make. A. I made dinner for my wife is hungry. B. I made dinner for my hungry wife.

Asserted, not proven. The Bible says Jesus was the firstborn of all creation. The Bible also says in John 3:16 that Jesus was begotten, which means created, specifically pro-created.

Oh? What verse says this, which contradicts 1,000's of verses that say God alone is one?

You know that they discovered other subatomic particles in atoms, right? So, you stopping at 3 is just arbitrary to support your doctrine. Not sure how this is divine logic ...

Axiomatic of mystics to deny intellectual clarity through logical and objective means. Another axiomatic tell of mysticism. You do but you don’t. I submit that doctrine is not a spiritual thing but a roadmap to a spiritual thing. Means. Ends. Not the same thing. From the evidence you could...

One is not three. The trinity is inherently contradictory and it is easy to demonstrate. In fact, the inherent contradiction is always demonstrated when used. Perhaps it makes sense to you that Jesus fathered himself or that the Holy Spirit fathered Jesus, making "the Father" not the father of...

Whenever I come across this, I look up again the definition of rote. What does it have to do with the OP question? This thread is not about mystery but using reason to grasp Scripture. Logic is the art of the non-contradictory identification of truth. To paraphrase Galileo, I don't believe God...

I know enough. Did you read up on axiomatic analysis? You have repeatedly posted some version of your personal POV, experience, or thought processes. Yet, you fail that is irrelevant to the discussion for we are not talking about you BarnyFife. Yes, I did say "you" in the post in question but I...

That reminds me of a verse I came across the other day. It reads that there is no special or hidden message in our words (of Scripture). Yet, that is exactly what trinitarians do at every turn. For instance, I offer proof that Jesus is not God. The proof is that Jesus died. Mental gymnastics...

My friend, intellectual rants are not intended to change ones beliefs, only show readers the relative strength of arguments. There is nothing wrong with saying 'I believe X' without being able to defend it to the nth degree. But stop lying to yourself about having thought through the believe...

The CEV translation Psalm 82:1 was the verse of the year last year for me. It's the Original Sin all over again! Jesus used v6 to justify calling himself the son of God. Powerful stuff to realize the Bible recognizes that we are all 'gods' (in the Bible sense of being law givers and judges to...

Outstanding question! Undoubtedly, if a trinitarian even attempts to answer this, he will employ mystical dualism where logic is no constraint at all. Supporting the flawed doctrine at all cost to intellectual integrity is what seems to matter to them. And all subsequent believers in the...

Impeccable logic is hostile to flawed arguments. Appeal to Ignorance. One odd argument trinitarians make is this sort of equality of statements, compounded with the supposition that the benefit of the doubt should go to them. What is funny is that in courts of law, statistics and logic, the...

Intent has nothing to do with it. See Axiomatic Analysis.

None of this is true. Jesus declared his Father to be the one true God in John 17:3 and referenced his God many times. Even after he was resurrected. See John 20:17. The only God is Jesus' God. Jesus declared himself to his followers as the long awaited Messiah, the suffering servant who God...

You do know a Hebrew wrote this who is a monotheist, right? I know you did not address this question to me but you must realize the Jews have a monotheistic interpretation of Isaiah 9:6, right? Why Isaiah 7:14 Is Not A Prophecy of Jesus’ Virgin Birth Trinitarians deliberately confuse 2...

Anti-Biblical. Not once is "God the Son" stated in Scripture but over and over and over again God is the father alone. Return to Me and you will know that I live among My people Israel and that I, the Eternal One, am your God and there is no other. Joel 2:27