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It’s why paul considered all his suffering a momentary light affliction this life is so short compared to eternity,

If they would stop fighting a term, OSAS, I think they may be open to understanding what we really believe

He leaves the flock to go find the lost sheep. His true sheep knows his voice and follow I think people forget, God always called us sheep for a reason.

Amen we are made new creatures. Sadly all churches have dogs and swine in their congregations. When they leave. People want to say they lost their salvation. When in fact, a dog returns to his vomit and a sow wallow in the mire, they return to their true nature, which is an unborn again...

He won’t come off this. Many have tried to explain that to him here, he is hard hearted. He will not listen and he continues to bear false witness against us by say9 g we think it’s ok to sin. that’s why I stopped conversing with him after months of trying to explain to him what we really believe

The Bible calls them people who turn the grace of God to licentiousness and state their eternal state was ordained they are No more true believers than the religious person trying to earn their salvation by works. Both have pride issues which must be broken for them to see Gods truth

I gave up talking to him. He will not listen he is another one who just throws baseless false accusations around because he does not know what others really believe

And your uplifting? Attacking people falsly. go ahead and run.

A true believer has already overcome the world. 1 John 5:4 4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.

Who claims it is ok to sin! I have never heard one person claim this,

Yep we do a true believer will have fruit, the jews were the most righteous law abiding people on earth. Who lived by the works of thenlaw, Yet they produced no fruit and when their messiah came they crucified him. what did all their good religious deeds get them? Nothing.

And here you go slandering the gospel is not how we live, it is God making us right with him so we have the ability to live. John said one who sins has never seen God, whoever is born of God does not sin. it is the true faith believers who obey, who walk on the spirit who do works. Make...

Practice what you preach my friend, you sit here and attack us, then get mad when we defend ourselves, you do not want to learn what we believe, you think you already k ow. Yet every time you tell us what we do, YOUR WRONG go ahead and run and ignore. That just shows me we are hitting a...

This post shows you know absolutely nothing about those who believe in what you call OSAS. sadly I fear your just fighting a term and not actually getting to know the people who believe that once you are saved (have eternal life) you are always saved (eternal life) John says the knowledge of...

He never. Because he knew his love was so great NO ONE would ever stop believing. Unless they never truly believed to begin with. Where is this in scripture> John 6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. endure to the end is...

Dude your the one who asked me about works but I see you continue to prove your just a troll again, good day, when you actually want to sit and talk like grown people, come talk to me

look at that. We agree on something

Actually yes it does You keep throwing out works. So show me one christian that does not have works?

To me it means we are no longer tossed to and fro. We now have an abba father nit a spirit of fear we belong to Christ. It is his workmanship in molding us. He who began that good work will Complete it. Etc etc

They are truly no different than the jews. They want their hard work to count. so to tell them all their hard work will not count for one sin being forgiven, They get angry, We see it here and in the war against eternal security. If Christ was here today and told them what he told the jews, They...