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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Using Biblical text to support your belief is one thing. Peppering your response with personal disparaging comments is making your Biblical text convoluted.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Death of a body....is of two things; 1) physical ... which means physical mortal death 2) spiritual ... which mean separation from God Flesh physical living body’s CAN be separated from God. Souls IN a physical living body CAN be separated from God. TO BE, “not WITH” God, IS separation FROM...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yes the Bible DOES teach, the body IS from dust, the living soul IN the Body, is from God, the quickened spirit IN the body is from God. What is FROM dust, is MADE alive, Dies, returns to dust. What is FROM God, is LIFE, remains LIFE, returns to God.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    A single scripture? No Soul departing the body? Yes. Gen 35: [16] And they journeyed from Bethel; and there was but a little way to come to Ephrath: and Rachel travailed, and she had hard labour. [17] And it came to pass, when she was in hard labour, that the midwife said unto her, Fear not...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    God is good. Pss 100:5 Man was created and then made, “very good”. (Gen 2:3) Gen 1: [31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. * Freewill... a Blessing and a Curse....is broadly mankind’s downfall, from the...
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    HERESY?

    Sure it can always go deeper.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Where are you getting...”utterly annihilate” from? Speaking from deep left field, is too far out.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yep. And...the understanding is...WHAT is forever ALIVE that can possibly suffer forever torment.....hint...(spirits) separated from God.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    God “MAKING” of Living souls was according to His Wisdom. I find it pretty HANDY to have SOME part of God within a man. I find it AWESOME, that God Loves His creations. I find it AWESOME, that His creations have FREEWILL to Love Him in Return, or Reject Him as they freely Choose. I find God...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    There is a HUGE WHEN difference.... between...WILL SAVE....and ARE SAVED. .... * A man WHO confesses true heartful believe, WHILE ALIVE in his bodily flesh...IS SAVED THEN...Before his BODY experiences, PHYSICAL DEATH. * A man WHO IS alive in his physical body, and believes.....la, la, la, la...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Historically.... Yes, Israel is Gods People. Yes, Jesus’ is the Chief cornerstone of His Church. Yes, the Head and Rock Foundation of Jesus’ Church IS Christ. Yes, Jesus’ chose his specific Disciples, out of ISRAEL, specifically the Jews. Yes, One Disciples deflected. Yes, the rest of Jesus’...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    @Aunty Jane ~ So WHAT about that, DEPARTED LIVING SOUL, that such soul Belongs to God, with Gods Breath of Life IN it? That Soul did not come forth out of the Earth. That Breath of Life did not come forth out of the Earth. WHAT Becomes of THAT DEPARTED LIVING SOUL? * Further learning of the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    @Aunty Jane ~ Gen 2: [7] (...the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life....), and man became a living soul. The 1st highlight Created Form called a man. The 2nd highlight God breathed Life into that Created Formed man. The 3rd...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You have completely zoomed passed...Gods creation of a man. There is no shortage of Oxygen, on the Earth. A man breathing is not a learned behavior. What oxygen does for a man is irrelevant at the point of God creating a man. Still pausing....at the point...God created a FORMED man from the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Convoluting. Adam was created and made, NOT BORN. A “newborn”, created and made, and IS BORN. What exactly is your precise question? I have no issue with MY belief, or MY understanding of Gods creation. Not news. Have already said, BLOOD is the Life of the Body. What about it? Adam...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    ~ The Scriptures particularly Written IS for mans Benefit, to hear and Learn, bit by bit, and have a trustworthy verification source. ~ The Angels (IMO) were created WITH the Knowledge, (different from man who must hear and learn, bit by bit.)
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Disagree. Person...a human being regarded as an individual. Human comes from the dust of the Earth. Human is the manKIND of body, whether or not it is ALIVE. Soul comes from the breath of God. Soul is Living, weather or not it is IN the a Body. Disagree. That which Applies TO Christ Jesus...
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    The HOMELESS Problem.

    There are plenty of people without homes. Yet, the people “living” in squalor, under a bridge, filthy, feculence, surely IMO, would not take long to cause an increase in mental delusions.
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    The HOMELESS Problem.

    Understand the Govt has it’s own jargon. Common words, Common understanding becomes senseless when jargon redefines common words and common understanding. What you would call homeless, is likely far different than what the US Federal Code defines as homeless. According to the US Code, pretty...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    In brief I believe the soul activates the life of a human body. You can research their answers. You can do your own research. I SEE the highlight differently... Gods Works; (Gods Hands, Gods Breath, God identifying one of His Creations; Man-KIND) * God Formed a body, ie Created of Dust...