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  1. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Actually yhwh is a singular form of the word God, Elohim is the plural form preincarnate Jesus used both terms when speaking of himself or the trinity which he was included
  2. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Remember he is cutting and pasting himself. they have a term for someone calling someone out for doing what they themself do,
  3. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    You still have failed to prove your point beyond a shadow of a doubt. why have you continued to refuse to answer my question about preincarnat Jesus words in Isaiah where he said he was sent by the father and spirit?
  4. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Ok so Jesus is not a prophet he is a son born of god this does not prove he is the father keep trying in fact here.. Isaiah 48:14-16 Listen to Me, O Jacob, And Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. 13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #2

    Funny how the very passage you used, the god of Israel said I am YHWH and beside me there is no elohim..
  6. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Actually he asked them to which of the works they planned to stone them he also told them before abraham was, he always existed, and they threatened to stone him there also, how could Jesus exist before Abraham if he was not born for over 2000 years after Abraham was born?
  7. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    this makes no sense whatsoever this does not prove you point, circumstantial at best he was sent by the father we are told this even in the Old Testament, where he said he was sent at that time by the father and the spirit, Jesus at this time had yet to be born into a human body Ok, yet Jesus...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Another one
  9. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    How can Jesus be the father if he prayed to the father how can he be that father if he said no one has seen the father how can Jesus be the father if he said the father will send the spirit how can he be the father if the father sent him how can he be the father if he is the so? I can ask...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    You think he believes Jesus is just a man. Maybe that answers a lot of what he is saying
  11. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    So when the father left he he was alive spiritually? I this I see the issue here, you have no understanding of spiritual vs physical death spiritual death was the penalty of sin, physical death was a result of sin. I was made alive in Christ because Christ was made dead on my behalf. that’s...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Actually i mentioned genesis where god (plural) created the heavens and the earth, i also mentioned Is 48 where the God of Israel said he was sent by the father and the spirit, I also asked who Jesus prayed to himself? (John 17) and who the father was going to send in his name (John 14] I...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Yep, both passages prove the trinity, again nice try
  14. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    No we did not lie he died spiritually when he cried out my god my god why has thou forsaken me, then he said it is finished. The literal translation being paid in full the payment for sin was completed before he gave up the spirit
  15. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Jesus body died he himself immediately left the body, he was still alive he also died spiritually before he died physically again, your arguments are fine. But they are lacking understanding
  16. Eternally Grateful

    John 1:1 looked at HONESTLY!

    Why did Jesus not say worship himself? because he was admitting he was not the father.
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Does the Jews and Israel exist?

    The old is the mosaic covenant we are talking about the Palestinian land covenant, nice try, but you have o argument, because your arguing the wrong old covenant,
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Does the Jews and Israel exist?

    why do you keep refusing to look at the passages I give? This passage does not refute what I said. You need to study more my friend
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Does the Jews and Israel exist?

    you have to throw out half the OT prophecies then. Your right they did not recieve him, It was prophecied that would happen.
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Does the Jews and Israel exist?

    Wrong. The covenant made between God and Isreal in Hen 12/15 and 17 and confirmed multiple times all over the OT has nothing to do with salvation and nothing to do with the new covenant.