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Very few Catholics can have a serious discussion about Spiritual things...

@Enoch111 ~ Have you found any Scriptural testament of Peter in Rome?

LOL....peewee claims

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LOL moggy....

The Rapture is not Jesus’ Second Coming. The Rapture is Lifting Up of those Converted IN Christ, ie already Saved.

Utterly FALSE. I see you did not quote me!

The whole 7 years is broadly called the “Great Tribulation”, which gives us notice it is Controlled By Gods Power and to WHOM He gives “power”. We already know, ALL power comes from God. We already know, Satan (all angels holy and otherwise) have more power than men. We already know, Satan shall...

It is easy, if you lump all together. However ALL are NOT lumped together. Fact is ALL flesh rises....but if you lump all together, you know not, when or why.....and make obscure statements. When you simply say ALL who die go straight to Heaven....ALL what.... Body’s?, souls?, spirits? Who...

Revelation 7 is speaking of expressly particular people... 144,000 VIRGIN Tribesmen of the 12 Tribes of Israel, who were set apart when the 12 Tribes were established.... Are “you” included as being one of the 144,000 Virgin Tribesmen set apart when the 12 Tribes were established? If not “you”...

Broken off...Grafting in...Grafting BACK in....sort of funky terms. Broken off, requires one to FIRST be PART OF/ Hebrews, Tribes, ARE Part of, (yes called ISRAEL a People). For Centuries...ISRAEL...has run the gambit of “exclusive” People gathered together...to “mixed among” Gentiles...to...

1)Saints are Saved souls IN Heaven, who bodily died in Belief IN God. 2)Saints are Saved souls IN Heaven, who bodily died in Belief IN God & Jesus. ^ Their Body’s are raised AFTER 1,000 yr reign. <-Not Christ’s Church 3)Saints are Saved souls IN Heaven, who bodily died Converted IN Christ...

First trib...8 were entered into the arc 7 days Before the Trib Began. During the Trib. Flooding they were raised above the face of the earth... Last trib..?? How man shall be raised up Before the 7 years of Trib Begins ?? I do not know how many, but I do know WHO...those Converted IN Christ...

The whole big picture of the NT, is Salvation BEFORE PHYSICAL Death.

A saint, is one who is Dead, Saved, Quickened. A Converted person is accounted a saint. Pray FOR (not TO) the saints. Remember, Jesus was crucified for His Belief? Historically, saints have been killed for their Beliefs. Continues today, especially Middle East. They experience tribulation...

You try to express Spiritual things with a Carnal minded understanding, and it’s a fail. Your recourse is to call names and make snarky remarks.

If you are ON the face of the Earth during the Tribulation, you will experience the Tribulation, death and destruction. Same as all the people ON the face of the Earth during the First great Tribulation......review...they all died....only Noah and his family were saved, risen up above the face...

To be clear, Jesus is not COMING TO EARTH to rescue Christ’s Church. Jesus’ Angel calls up Christ’s Church. The Lord descends from Heaven to meet Christ’s Church in the clouds. Christ’s Church meets the “Lord” in the clouds. It is Son of Man (humbled) who came to Earth. It is Son of Man (with...