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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    That is a baseless conclusion. Scripture says that Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil (1 John 3:8) and that He took the power of death away from the devil, Satan (Hebrews 2:14-15). And that He came to bind the strong man and spoil his goods and his house (Matt 12:28-29). Do you think...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Completely. He's not addressing any of my points. Imagine trying to say that Satan is deceiving the masses more than ever. More than when only 8 people in the world were saved as was the case in Noah's day? Really? He's not dealing with reality here. He'd rather cling to his premil doctrine than...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Wow. You just immediately dismiss any points that I make. Are you suggesting that there's no difference between OT times and NT times as it relates to salvation? Was Paul just making the following up in his imagination? Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Yeah, the present tense and ongoing nature of Christ's reign and us reigning with Him as priests during this life and continuing in heaven after we die physically/bodily is very clear. It's no wonder that Premils don't want to talk about this.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Why would I try to do that? Have you considered that maybe you're not being clear? Not my fault that you avoid many of my points and are not clear on your own. Is there some reason why you won't address any of my points? Is there some reason why you won't exegete the scriptures that I bring up...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Are you denying that Christ reigns right now in hearts of His people living on earth? Are you denying that Jesus has all power and authority right now both in heaven and on earth? Are you using scripture to form your conclusions? It doesn't seem like it. Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    There is a sense in which this is true, which shows that we have to discern what the context is of Matthew 24:21. Is it talking about a tribulation greater in scope than any other before? Or is it talking about tribulation in a local place or a city like Jerusalem unlike anything before or...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Nonsense. The Greek word translated as "prince" in verse 26 (nāḡîḏ) is the same Greek word translated as "Prince" in verse 25. So, your comment that the word means commander in verse 26 and it can't refer to Jesus makes no sense since the same word is used to describe the Messiah in verse 25...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    What can be of greater scale than a flood that killed all but 8 people on the earth? You are very clearly taking Matthew 24:21 out of context. You are interpreting a verse that relates to tribulation in Judea to be talking about global tribulaton. That is nonsense. You see both a local and...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    It seems like you are constantly avoiding my points. Why? I said nothing about OT saints being saved in a different way than NT saints. I was showing the difference in how many people have been saved in NT times compared to OT times. Do you not think that has anything to do with what Jesus did...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    I already responded to this in post #157. Did you miss that one? Please read it and give me your thoughts on what I said there.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    No matter what you say, Doug, prophetic beasts are kingdoms. Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. You can't try to...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    Your thinking is so carnal. You need to learn to think spiritually instead. It says it takes a mind that has wisdom to understand what the seven heads represent as seven mountains. That's talking about spiritual wisdom. No spiritual wisdom is necessary in order to interpret the seven mountains...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Prophetic Timeline: Why Jesuit Futurists/Jesuit Preterists Ignore It

    I completely disagree. You need to look at all of the verses that speak of antichrist to get the full understanding. It wasn't an individual Antichrist that was said to come, but rather "that spirit of antichrist" is what they heard was coming (1 John 4:3), which would manifest in those who deny...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Yes, exactly. And that has been a multitude of people during the New Testament time period. How about in Old Testament times? Not so much. Ephesians 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    You are not recognizing the multiple parallels in the book of Revelation that cover the time period from Christ's first coming to His second coming. At the sixth seal it is said that the great day of the Lamb's wrath is at hand at that point. How do you have a period of time occurring after that...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    So, just saying you're right and I'm wrong is enough. You think that is a sufficient argument? I don't think so. Show me where Revelation 20 says something about Jesus reigning on earth. I would say the problem is you making assumptions about the text that are not indicated in the text anywhere.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Lord will fight for Israel and Jerusalem; Zech. 12

    Can you please address what I said in post #162? Please address them and then I will address what you said here. I'm interested in a two way discussion where we each address each other's points.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    No, your interpretation is flawed. Revelation 12:10 makes it clear that Satan being cast out of heaven coincides with him no longer being able to accuse believers before God in heaven. Do you think he can do that now? Paul says no one can. I just showed this passage in my previous post, but it's...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    When was Satan cast out of heaven, down to the earth?

    Yes, Satan was cast out of heaven long ago. He formerly was able to accuse God's people before Him day and night in heaven, but could no longer do so after Christ's death and resurrection. Why not? Because His blood covers our sins and provides forgiveness. What does Satan have to accuse us of...