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Then you will not only have a disagreement with me but also with the Calvinists on this forum.

Forrest, and Angelina...do you see this? Do you think that iforest and Angelina do not know what you believe and what you deny and what you lie about? You think they are stupid?

Are you serious....that is going to take a lot of space. Are you a new Calvinist? see post #1439

To many years dealing with Calvinists...no what they are and know what they believe. The anti-cult organizations deal with Calvinists. Would you like their phone number? Maybe they can help you.

All these things are choices.....Calvinism says no choices.

See back to lies....saved....you are predetermined. No choice for salvation..... No faith, no repentance, no prayers, no grace, no love, no good deeds, that is not forced by your god. Which makes all of that null and void. Puppets on a string under the control of the hideous puppet master. As a...

So you are saying that your god predestines people to be evil before the foundation of the world. So you are saying that your god predestines people to be damned to hell before the foundation of the world. So now we are getting somewhere....so explain your concept of free-will.

Ok mister man of truth... When does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell?

So in some twisted way you are defining this as free-will

Tell her David....Tell her how much you believe in Free-will.... When does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell?

lol and still your lies and evasion persists! When does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell? Keep dodging the questions...they are following you around.

Cool, when does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell?

Calvinists believe that you are predestined to heaven or hell before the foundation of the world was set. It is hard to get them to admit that. That is why I am so hard on them because they turn God into a monster, a puppet monster. Humanity controlled Good or bad. Faith, love, repentance...

Of course I believe in free will. David was saying he does....that is not Calvinist. Calvinist believe they are completely under the control of their god. No mind but what reflects what God puts their.

John, David Taylor says he has free-will....explain to me what twisted truth allows him to say that?

Of course, not in the mind controlled head of yours. So when does your god predestine people to Hell?

I have been showing in words and pictures all along this discussion. So you say Calvinists have free-will Are you going say that your god does not predestine people to hell before they are born? That he does not predestine people to be the elect before they are born?

Argue with me about this? You say you are not a robot? Then you have free-will. You say that you are not mind-controlled? Then you have Free-will. You say you like being a robot. Then you are mind-controlled. There is no way for you to logically win this argument. You have to go into the fantasy...

Well it is certainly the religion for those that have a persecution complex.

Do you stand in the parking lot of abortion clinics and watch God march women in to kill their babies...? Do you take popcorn! Is this a praying event, where you give glory to God for the slaughter of innocence!