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Just like the bible said!

So are you saying Joseph is Jesus biological father?

Well as I am not in a cult- that is just a not so subtle ad-hominem on your part to besmirch. And Common sense has no place in a biblical argument especially when the Bible contradicts common snese! But why don't you take your common sense and tell us what these verses mean if they are saying...

So do you believe that people are saved until they commit their first sin and then lost their salvation and have to get born again-again?

But when I was an unbeliever I had no free will. I could not choose God on my own no matter how long I had! As a believer I have free will restored to me and yes my sins are mine to own! I never said different. You are just vomiting out old canned lines agains the biblecal teaching of Gods...

The only thinkg I am grateful for is that despite all teh problems, the gospel is still heard in Catholic Churches and millions of Catholics are saved because they have trusted Christ. I a saddened that they are saddled with the burden of enormous amounts of heresy that stunts their growth, but...

If unsaved man has free will I would agrtee with you, but the Bible clearly teaches the unsaved are incapable of choosing God thus do not have free will. God gave Adam and Eve free will as well as the angels. Satna and 1/3 of teh angels chose evil, and Adam and Eve did as well. we are...

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. Do you need more?

Sometimes foreknowledge is causing something to happen, sometime it is simply knowing what will happen, but every time biblically the word foreknowledge is used, it is knowing in advance because it is caused in advance and it only refers to Jesus dying for us, and believers being choisen before...

I know that- I guess my spelling of the followers of old Jacob is not up to snuff! :confused:

Well for this thread as to "Calvinism vs. Armenianism" I believe the five points of Calvin are 100% biblical, in their basic definititon. IN addressing the further points of Calvinism, I do not know if I agree with them all. I am not part of a calvinistic church nor a reformed church.

what does this have to do with what we are talking about??????????????????????????????????????

She didn't! She did not have any children before the fall! There is simply no evidence that she did! If she had- they would have been born perfect through innocence. there is huge spiritual questions posed if she had any children before the fall!

Correct- but it is not water baptism but spirit baptism that makes us part of the body and that happens because of faith.

Correct! They had personal free will! Which was destroyed in the fall. we are all products of teh fallen Adam and Eve and as Ephesians say are by NATURE objects of wrath and children of disobedience. When we are born AGAIN, we are restored to our trichotomous state (body, soul, and spirit)...

He is the adopted Father of Jesus! Even th eoriginal texts support the King James way of saying it in Luke 3: 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, If one has an understanding of jewish culture, the...

While I agree with you that the Roman system is filled with all sorts of heresy and apostasy and the like, I disagree that the Church is the Antichrist. The antichrists' is a person and not an entity. And unless the Pope once again gains the massive political and military power it once had in...

you need to read your bible more

I never said God predestines sins anywhere in my posts. You are making up false accusations against me now! I agree with all this and this is what I have said all along. I never said God predestined sin, but allowed it to take place for His reasons. Anything else added to that is someone...

And every believer (not just a member of a sect) is part of the church. The church has to preserve , protect and pass on the Word of God- not interpret it.