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  1. Grailhunter

    Tongues and Related Issues

    I think that most people here are aware of the fact that Pentecost was a tongue of nationalization, each heard in their own language, but still a communication from the Holy Spirit. Speaking in tongues is always associated with the Holy Spirit. This is why I warn people, it is one thing to not...
  2. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Phillip, just for the fun in it....beliefs....infant baptism....I have no problems baptizing babies....but to think it came from the scriptures or if the early Christians were practicing it....Not there. Mothers have a tendency to be funny that way, this would be a big issue and the type of...
  3. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    lol, Number 1 am not a Mormon. I defend the right of those to believe in what they believe in...even you. Two, the formula of the Trinity. I believe the Trinity is real. I believe that God the Father created the heavens and earth. I believe that God the Father created Adam and Eve. I believe...
  4. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    All true. This opens up a lot of topics for me but I am not going to get into it all. One of the ways that you can tell the Bible is true is all the confusion. As opposed to the Koran that is very well written, because it is a novel, not a lot to do with the truth. The same with Christ, He had...
  5. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Valid point. But I do question that a God as loving as Christ would go through what He did, to provided suffering as an example. His was the sacrifice to end all sacrifices. Our suffering is not a continuation of sacrifices, that would nullify His sacrifice. I do not believe He enjoys the...
  6. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    lol, ya know they say that if you want to know the truth, look to the heretics, but that does not hold water. At that time Gnosticism was on the rise and the church of Alexandria was gaining strength. Constantine chose the religious beliefs of the Christians in Rome and the seven churches of...
  7. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Hold on a minute epostle, I will bet dollars to donuts that GodsGrace has a concept. That warrants an apology. You are not the only one that has studied Christian history. But you are right people in general misunderstand what went on at Nicaea. Some try to lump other councils in on that one...
  8. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    No not Vietnam...I am not that old. All good.
  9. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    I could care less about Rome. And I am not asking you to cowtow to anything. Not asking you to agree with anything but your own beliefs. I am asking, as Christians, do we have to condemn each other? Is it enough to say, we do not agree? When I was overseas I fought side by side with men and...
  10. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    No it is not. I am Christian and I like Christians. If someone was telling you, that you were wrong and condemned your beliefs, I would come to your defense. But what we have as they say...it is what it is. There is no reason to condemn each other. And the way it is now, in the world, the wolves...
  11. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    The complete history would be rather lengthy and I did not mention the Moravian church or the Anabaptists either. So your point? Which one did you pick?
  12. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Oh contraire mon frere, you never said Church. So in the 1500's we see those that do not agree with the corruption and sins of the Church and they break away... hence the name Protest Churches. Now we have to pick one. Martin intended to reform the Catholic Church but it got away from him and...
  13. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Not a spiel, reality. You should know that I am not Catholic. But I do like common sense. Christ did have a Church on earth, whether you and I agree with it or not. Christianity did not start in the 1500's.
  14. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    My question was direct and clear. I do not think you like the true answer. So you are are beating around the bush.
  15. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    I was not alive then. I am asking if you believe that Christ did not have a church on earth until 1500's?
  16. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    So your answer is no, just regenerate believers with no structure or guidance.
  17. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    No wonder I liked it!
  18. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    lol ok....So would you say that Christ did not have a church on earth between the close of the Bible and then 1500 years later the start of the protestant fundamentalism?
  19. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    I agree so where does that put you with the Catholic Church?
  20. Grailhunter

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    What I am trying to say do you believe God was active after the close of the Bible? Before we go any further I am not trying to insult you. What happened after the close of the Bible?
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