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Another point is that, if you do not believe in tongues, no harm, no foul....Anyone that understands this and is honest, never says or implies that it is a requirement for salvation. That is where some of the false teachings occurs, that would be Gnostic. Salvation is through and only through...

@Waiting on him @VictoryinJesus This is not a hard thing. A lot was said in this thread....if you never experienced it, it is hard to understand or even believe. If you had, you would never question it. And if you do not believe, that is ok with me, but read the verse on the unpardonable sin...

You know forums are a lot like texting.....darn that auto correct...stuff like that. At the end of John..at the Last Supper Christ speaks of the Holy Spirit that will come. Read that and tell me how you think the Holy Spirit is going to do all those things. Is that better or did I mess it more?

So Paul was speaking of something that would happen in the future?

That is easy. As a whole I believe what Paul said is true and what Christ said is true. But in my own words, the Holy Spirit interact with us in different ways. Some of these ways are Gifts and some of these ways are blessings. The idea that the Trinity just retired after the close of Bible just...

I want you to say in your own words. Now if I put you on the spot. We can talk about it later.

If you think that tongues are a bunch of lies just say so. But you still have not gotten together enough to answer the questions. What did Christ mean when He said that the Holy Spirit would come? That the Holy Spirit would guide us and teach us the truth? How does the Holy Spirit do this? In...

But wouldn't be good thing for the Bible to whole?

Sometime we need to talk about Christianity in the United Kingdom, just curious. And good post. Still the question is, what camp are you in? Or do you agree that we should work to bring these scriptures in harmony?

A point that I am not going to spend much time on..This is not my tally...worldwide... Rank Christian Denomination Members 1 Catholic Church 1,285,000,000 2 Protestantism 920,000,000 3 Anglicanism 85,000,000 4 Eastern Orthodox Church 270,000,000

There is a point and I am in neither camp. No claim can be absolute because there are usually exceptions. The question is, what are they, are we going to know. Now if Grailhunter kills thousands of Jews and cooks them in ovens, is he going to go to a bad place, my bet is yes. Now if someone from...

I know that is what you believe, and I respect that. It is a hard question. But it is a question that has to be resolved for the Bible to be whole. We tend to think one dimensionally, this is it, one chance only. Only one chance for the Jews sitting in Sheol, but they all went to...

Wrong reasoning. Do you know that all of the protestants denominations combined, are the minority compared to the Catholics. Does that rational mean we should disregard the beliefs of all Protestants?

Of course that would be good. But some very smart and knowledgeable people will still choose to pick a side. You speak of young Christians, this is the sort of thing that could turn them off. After all these years, we do not understand? Battling scriptures that resolve nothing. No understanding...

Again you have picked a side, leaving the other as invalid. That is not the answer. Both sides are right and have valid scriptures to back them up. But that does not make the Bible whole, it just makes each side feel good.

lol You know you are preaching to the choir. lol We both know that there are scriptures for both sides. New Christians should be taught the ramifications of sin and there are many. You know that Christ's teaching was not about keeping the color of the cows in the same field. The sins that...

Your truth....is not Gospel. There are others here that know the scriptures just as well as you and present scriptures that are just as godly as yours. Short sighted and naive of you to think only you are right. Living in a bubble makes you short sighted.

I agree that scripture must be reconciled and it usually is. But how does on reconcile unconditional security vs conditional security? You know this is true. There is an answer, and quoting supposed contradicting scriptures, is not where the effort should be used. Both sides are quoting true...

This is what Christianity has been doing for almost two millenniums, picking sides. Try arguing that point! There are two long sets of valid scriptures that say, you can sin, and a list of valid scriptures that say you cannot sin, also and…there are a full list of valid scriptures that say that...

Neat topic....not this one.