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Okay, so far you are believing the same thing, and are fundamentally correct in my opinion. David, what else then is John believing that you don't? John, same question about David. I first want to hear you say what you think the other is saying. Then we can find out what corrections in...

I am so confused. Can you tell me in a nutshell what you see that John believes that is different than what you others believe that is causing so much strife? Is it merely semantics like it seems to me, or something actually fundamental?

No, I'd want the best, and besides that possibility is long gone.

Just as well. I tried asking what they thought about a Scripture but these children want to keep fighting.

I really just like the art.

Yes.

Yes, don't know where I would have put it.

Hi Non, How do you explain Hebrews 10:26-31 (which I added in an edit to the original post you responded to) which claims they have already been sanctified.

According to your definition of PS, after we are a Christian and Jesus died for the past sins we committed, what happens to us and our sins if we continue to sin willfully sins of lawlessness according to Hebrews 10:26-31? And, of course, provide scriptural corroboration for what you believe...

Nor do I believe He was disobedient, but what brought Him to a place of obedience in order to die on the cross. What pushed Him over the top?

Of course, however, why would he need to learn obedience, or come to a place of obedience? What was that about? What happened that made Jesus learn.

What suffering had He already done that made Him obedient to die on the cross.

I would like more explanation please. What in particular?

@Episkopos , @David Taylor , @John Caldwell , @Steve Owen What did Jesus suffer that brought Him to obedience? Hebrews 5: 6 As He also says in another place: “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek”; 7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and...

Yes, I agree. Look at the bottom of your post. I gave you a "like."

Not the site's ignore, but I would ignore what your write if there is no Scripture to discuss. That ended when you at least wrote Isaiah 53. As for John Caldwell, I haven't read all his posts to other people, just when I'm alerted. Yes, verse 5 says they are our iniquities, but not that they...

1 Corinthians 2:8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Great question. The answer is Revelation 22:11 11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”

Navel gazing!!! ROFL