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So it turns to insults. Enough! I have got rough with you in the past and you will not provoke me. I have read your statement and clearly you have had a hard time of it. We are done for now...later

Ok then.

That is the thing, not going to hoodwink you, I am going say find it. You may be confident in what you believe and have good scriptures to support it and they are confident in what they believe and have good scriptures to support it. But the real wisdom is what answers both explanations. Again...

Number one, you are not open, oh my. Intelligent you are, but must have a three inch skull. Here is the thing. When it comes to scriptures, wisdom given is unappreciated and often trample under foot. Wisdom found is a treasure for the rest of your life. There has to be a answer to why so many...

↑ instead of putting their head together in fellowship and figuring this riddle out. The riddle is very simply figured out, if anyone would re-read the following posts (re-quoted for you here): lol you think that only you are right. That is the problem...Keep chasing your tails.

You got me wrong! I agree with both sides. And I am being a little rough, in trying to kick your minds in actions. That does not mean I think you are stupid. I think right here, in this group you can figure it out. With no Law there is no violation. That is a definitive statement and the over...

No I have it right, you are chasing your tail! lol

Ohhh! lol I see you guys are still flinging scripture arrows and being rude to one another. Getting you anywhere? No it is not! You think with this process that the Grace of the Holy Spirit is anywhere in sight? Keep it up, very entertaining! There are some pretty smart guys here...still...

The puppet master reality is an absurd idea. If you enter the scriptures with no common sense, you can come away with some weird beliefs and doctrines like; To be a disciple of Christ you have to hate your father and mother, etc. To be a disciple of Christ you have to give away all you own and...

You are on track. Now how can some "pick and choose" the scriptures? Can you not see that both sides "pick and choose" scriptures and fling them like arrows instead of finding the truth between them.....keep going.

Oh my amadeus, you said a mouthful! Can you imagine the guy writing Jacob's story. Ok, let see, he is the patriarch of the twelve tribes of Israel, so how are we going to word this so that he does not look like a complete dirt bag. His name pretty much was fitting.

No just a funny. Is this thread about the puppet master god, or that your salvation is at risk all the time people.

God leading people by the Spirit to man choosing to do right under his own power....lol Should you not tell Davy that the whole discussion is irrelevant because you believe that man does not have free-will to choose. You cannot sneak around with this abominable theology and not have someone call...

Hello there brother amadeus, I will point out some of this can be the trappings of the literal reading of the scriptures. Sometimes you have to step back from the literal. If not, you may not see the forest for the trees... Christ was called Emmanuel....God is with us....but not to many times...

I join ByGrace in welcoming you. What you said are facts....put a lot can be read "into" that, so what is the significance.

If you think the BACs are spiritually blind you should meet some of the RTI's.

She took it as rude...read the post. If you do not understand the difference of right and wrong....this is not going to go well. If you are not going to apologize there is no reason for you and I to talk.

All well and good. My exception is rudeness with the ladies. You want to talk with me...that is fine. Some people have had rougher lives than others. Who has not had someone wrong them. Forgiveness is a foundational concept in Christianity. Forgiveness heals the victim and perpetrator. Your...

No...rude in general. You are speaking of the Word of God and it appears you know nothing about the Spirit of the Word. The best your religion has taught you, is to be rude with the ladies. You know no better because you have learnt nothing. Lesson one: Christianity 101 Rule one: Keep a civil...

You both did good, you both had valid scriptures! Don't stop now! Figure it out.... Think outside the box. How can this be? You figure this out and you will find ways to figure other topics out. Do not stop!