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  1. Wrangler

    The Most Disturbing Verse: Giving Into The Adversary's Demands

    You do realize this thread is not about my concern that we may fail the test, right? Rather my concern is the deference to who is conducting the test, KNOWING his motives.
  2. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    God incarnate is not in Scripture. Jesus said he had not gone to his God in John 20:17 and Revelations 3. Consider the proof text against trinitarianism. No difference between us and Jesus. All the glory You have given to Me, I pass on to them. May that glory unify them and make them one as...
  3. Wrangler

    Another lawless Black person shot by police.

    There is a Taoist saying that I love. The water is dirty but the fish do not live in the clean water. Do you know what it means? Jesus put it this way. People who have their health don’t need to see a doctor. Only those who are sick do. I’m not here to call those already in good standing with...
  4. Wrangler

    Do you have to prove God exists?

    No because failure is an option. Putting aside religion, an aspect of logic is the one making the positive claim has the burden of proof. What constitutes proof will be explained in more detail in a moment. The null hypothesis in statistics is that if the claim is not supported, its opposite...
  5. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    This is a very annoying habit trinitarians employ. Sweep aside verses they don't like in favor of verses they do. Keep in mind this thread is not meant to debate but strengthen the case against trinitarianism. Admit that John 20:17 reveals the resurrected Jesus is going to his God. Thanks. 17...
  6. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    I asked you what you thought of the verse. It has nothing to do with my assumptions. If you don't want to answer my question, I understand. ;)
  7. Wrangler

    Another lawless Black person shot by police.

    You really don't see it? One of the answers I give to bad things happening in this world is that often when people come into good times, they drift away from God. I hold the converse is also the case. The worse things get, the more people are likely to turn to God. Civilization is based on...
  8. Wrangler

    The Most Disturbing Verse: Giving Into The Adversary's Demands

    In today's devotional reading, I came across this verse. 31 “Shim‘on, Shim‘on, listen! The Adversary demanded to have you people for himself, to sift you like wheat! Luke 22:31 (CJB) According to the NSRV, parallel verses are found at Job 1:6-12, Am 9:9. I find the notion of the LORD giving...
  9. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    I speak English. I am Groot.
  10. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    God is exclusively associated with the Father many times throughout Scripture, including ALL of the Epistles. So, God = Father alone and no one else. God and the Father are synonyms in Scripture. NOTE: The failure to acknowledge the non-existent 3rd person of the trinity in the following verses...
  11. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Wrong. John 20:17 does say God. Jesus is going to his God, who is our Father. Jesus' God is the only God.
  12. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    The contradiction is in claiming to being a Biblicist and these three are 'equal in divine essence but holding differing positions within the god head' and for the Bible does not say this anywhere. The Bible says God the Father but nowhere does it say God, the Son, or God, the HS. Jesus did not...
  13. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    Right. Equal, yes. Equality, no.
  14. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Hmm. We both advocate to follow Jesus, the only Lord and Savior of the world. What do you make of this verse? Equality or Hierarchy? 27 For the Scriptures say, “God has put all things under his authority.”[a] (Of course, when it says “all things are under his authority,” that does not include...
  15. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    Totally untrue. Jesus said God is greater than he, knows more than he and he is going to God after God raised him from the dead. See John 20:17.
  16. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    Absurd to assert general “equality” but then qualify only in a limited way. Not the same and not equal. To be an effective communicator those who advance general ‘equality’ ought to specify what it specifically depends on. Men don’t enjoy equality of life expectancy but you don’t see womanists...
  17. Wrangler

    The Absolute Equality of Jesus With The Father

    Do you hear yourself? An individual is not triune. It is trinitarian dogma that the Helper, Comforter is same as the Holy Spirit of God. The point is, it is absurd to refer to text that does not state the trinity as supporting the trinity. Jesus said about himself and this Helper that they...
  18. Wrangler

    Masculinity isn't toxic--- our culture is

    Thank you for this thread. In The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands, Dr Laura states that a wife who is never happy but always complaining is abusing her husband because making her happy is what he lives for. Well said. I put it this way. Feminists wants equality, except for when they...
  19. Wrangler

    What do you think about gender equality in Christianity?

    Listen, My female pastor just retired last year. I don't have a problem with a female pastor. I do have a problem comparing women with something to eat. The meat in question has to do with Jewish sacrificial meat. I'm sure you can find a good Study Bible to delve into it further. The point of...