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Yikes, and I doubt I would ever want to do that, haha!

"I woke up one morning and my kid had pieces of bread thrown all over the room - looked like it snowed LOL" :D That's not as bad as tossing left over rigatoni, mixed in tomato sauce, at the ceiling to see if they would stick...yes, my 2 older sibs and I were all guilty, lol.

No, I never even intoned that they "stumbled into" making their own sacrifice. All I was asking there was what TYPE of sacrifice was it? It could have been a grain offering, a sin offering, a burnt offering, a peace offering and whatever other kind of offering for specific sacrifices but...

"...Cain's actions as "evil" which known sin would qualify as but weak faith really wouldn't, would it?" True, weak faith and evil are two different animals, lol. I know there are several OT types of sacrifices and, of course the day of atonement would, obviously require a "blood" sacrifice...

I have been to a seder once and boy do they drink allot of wine! Lol...I cannot remember much on the food except eggs, matzo (?) horseradish and dipping the bitter herb. It was in like in 1993, shortly after that, I was invited to a Bar Mitzvah! That was fun.

Agreed. It WAS a meal and Jesus said to remember Him as "oft you do this". So do we not remember Him and give him thanks and praise for what He has set before us to eat? Would this ("communion") not co-inside with the Jewish Seder? When most say the word "communion" I immediately think of...

Yes Q.T. this is very interesting stuff. I saw a special on the tabernacle not long ago that showed us a replica of the real one and pointed out what you said above about the furnishing of the whole tabernacle in the shape of a cross, good and very interesting subject. :)

This thread WAS your idea Rita, lol...see how it's taken off?? ♥

Good catch there Helen...they have so many feasts!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have heard said that the very first sacrificial offering was when God made clothes from animal skins for Adam and Eve to cover themselves with. So, could that not have been a sacrifice for their sin? So, it could be the manner of Cain's offering, his heart/attitude or a combo of all??

Yes, good question on Cain's "first fruits" I could see if this was a sacrifice for "sin" but, how do we even know that? Hebrews 11:4-6: By faith Abel offered to God a better sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained the testimony that he was righteous, God testifying about his gifts, and...

Wonderful post! Oh how I pray for that visceral compassion, especially when praying for those I do not know...but God knows them and hears us none the less ♥ I ask for a heart to love the worlds "unlovable" ♥

I see a big difference between the parables...almost some to a totally opposite degree! As far as the "age to come"...whole nuther ism-type/thread IMHO :) Good stuff to mull over though!

Wonderful answer Deborah! And, since you echo other good brothers/sisters on "attitude" here, and, you have cleared up the non-blood issue (Ha!) sacrifice of Tribute- it seems plausible that attitude of heart is what God was looking at ♥ "because his own actions (note the plural - it wasn't...

She is blessed beyond measure, everyday ;)

"As in...I have experienced such and such miraculous provision or visitation...therefore (add in erroneous conclusion here). God gives us samples of things to bring us into His life. It's about life, not experiences. If you are walking in His life you are walking in a perpetual visitation.... a...

"you will not end up preaching to the choir here." Boy, you got that right, hahaha!

"Anything that we deem we want within it's pages...we claim for ourselves. When we find that the grace of God is given freely...we immediately claim the free stuff for ourselves. After all, it is OUR bible, and anything that we want in it is ours for the taking. So we bring the same covetous...

Yes but, this does not mention lack of Cain's "faith". So, maybe we are to surmise this through Hebrews 11:4 ? What "type" of sacrifice was it? Could have been a sacrifice of thanksgiving or something else?