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The Son of man, was sent to earth...humbled, AS a Servant, IN the LIKENESS AS, specifically A Jewish man of the House of David. While on Earth, it was revealed BY WORD...WHO this Son of man IS, (that men CAN SEE) is "spiritually" (that men can NOT SEE)....but CAN SEE the effects of His works...

Agree with your points...EXCEPT... Noah was in the ark 7 days before the rain began. The LORD shut Noah in the Ark. Interesting...for 7...Noah was secure BEFORE Gods works of Wrath began to come down from Heaven upon the Earth... Anyway.... Gen 7: [1] And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou...

Trying to have a conversation with the ignorant is pointless. Not my job to teach you the difference between a statement and a question. :rolleyes:

Try to pay attention. You made a comment. I asked you a question ABOUT YOUR WORDS IN YOUR COMMENT. You reply with Scriptural quotes. Your Scriptural quotes...were NOT YOUR WORDS...nor did your Scriptural quotes answer the question asked of you...ABOUT WHAT "YOU" SAID. "Asking" you to clarify...

~ quietthinker ~ You asked, how do we understand the Wrath of God...? Not presuming you do not know, or being rhetorical. My perspective is: God is the creator. God then MAKES particular things, apply to his creations. Such as. God creates a dust form, calls it a man, then MAKES that dust...

The question was NOT IF there shall be a new heaven and new earth. The question was...you saying MEN would be risen UP to Earth....(which is currently corrupt)....and THEN the earth would be renewed. You quoting John, does not answer the question. John was speaking from his persepective... You...

MatthewG ~ God is Holy. God is Spirit. John 5: [37] And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Straight off...we are informed of a disconnect of A created flesh man, (with ears, with eyes); of A...

With what?

Last day resurrection...Jesus Christ returns...to a corrupt earth? Glorifed bodies of men are raised...at "this" time men in Christ are raised up...(same last day resurrection is 'this" time?) After Bodies that will be raised in glory ARE raised....they are raised to WHERE? A corrupt earth...

Candid talk...agree. Killed...a body of flesh and blood in the Likeness of men, God prepared, for an example for men to SEE (who could not believe by hearing or believe by being foretold and then seeing the works come to pass). Stained glass...brilliant comment.

The Works of the Lord Gods Conversion "does" include the Lord Gods Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Repentance is what a man does...not God. Faith is a gift from God to men who Hear His word.

Really? Jesus did not believe, His Church IS within Him? Uh! Nah. God SENT Jesus into the world, Jesus ALSO SENT his disciples into the world. John 20: [21] Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. John 17: [18] As thou hast...

Conversion, IS: the Works of God...of: Forgiveness of Sin Against God (disbelief). Accepting a mans Bodily Life "given" Him. Restoring a mans soul. Giving a man a new heart (ie circumcision) Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Gods Spirit entering the mans new Heart. Giving a man Gods Seed in his new...

Gregory - Agree. There is NO "so called brick and mortar" True mother church. The KEY is: Jesus' risen body IS Christ's Church. Every man WHO dwells "IN" Christ Jesus' risen body...IS A member of Christ Jesus' Church. Eph 1: 22 [22]...the church, [23] Which is his body, the fulness of him...

"Without the sacrament of baptism"? I said no such thing. Nor do I know "WHAT YOUR Phrase" means TO YOU.

Conversion MAKES a person WITH God, WITH Jesus, IN Christ....regardless of what "religious Titled name" he calls himself.

* YOUR OP...The Great Tribulation has Begun. * YOUR Opening POST..."Lets BEGIN with the SEVEN SEALS"... * YOUR request...refrain from talking about the "RAPTURE". * YOUR disconnect statement.of Wrath and the Great Tribulation. YOUR RESPONSES.... * Your Mention of Multiple Seals, while claiming...

Basic answer....YES. Does that basic answer provide WHY or SPECIFIC Understanding? NO.

The "converted man" is not taken away. "Rewards" he could have had, shall be taken away. "Converted"...applies "expressly", to those WHO "HEARTFULY" confess Belief...IN God AND Jesus the Christ Messiah. THAT ^ expressly identifies A man... BOTH...."WITH....God & Christ...AND "IN" Christ. I do...

Your question is about this...ie the Lambs Wrath. Rev 6:1...Lamb opening Seal 1 Rev 6:3...Lamb opening Seal 2 Rev 6:5...Lamb opening Seal 3 Rev 6:7...Lamb opening Seal 4 Rev 6:9...Lamb opening Seal 5 Rev 6:12.Lamb opening Seal 6 Rev 6: (men Pleading for mts.& rock to hide them)... [16] And...