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Of course it does. Compare Rev 6:12-17 to Matthew 24:29. Jesus returns immediately after that and Rev 19:11-21 and Rev 20:9 both refer to what will happen when Jesus returns. Do you think the book of Revelation is a chronological account of events from beginning to end? If so, you are very...

Where? There's something very wrong with you. You asked me a question about "the tribulation" without telling me what your understanding of "the tribulation" is. I can't answer it without knowing what you think "the tribulation" is first. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Not at all...

You're the one who needs to think about this. When a person dies it's just their body that dies, not their soul and spirit. Their body has no life at that point, but their soul and spirit does. Scripture portrays bodily dead people as being conscious after their bodily death. Revelation 6:9-11...

That's talking about people's bodies, not their souls and spirits. Until you come to understand that there is more to people than just their bodies, you are not going to get it. I can tell that you rely completely on your own intellect to try to understand scripture and don't try to rely on the...

That's a copout on your part. When your view gets refuted, you resort to this kind of nonsense. While there may be symbolism being used there, it clearly implies that the souls of those who are bodily dead are conscious in heaven. You can't just disregard the passage altogether just because it...

Yes. Amazingly, we do actually agree on something. ;)

You're straight up not using any spiritual discernment and not looking at context. You need to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7). Your doctrine contradicts many verses in scripture. That is a ridiculous response. You need to understand what it's saying. To say it just means what it says shows...

We all have a body, soul and spirit. Why is that hard for you to understand? 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. When Jesus returns our bodies...

Because it is. Has He come in like manner from heaven as He left the earth yet (Acts 1:9-11)? Clearly not. You are deceived with your false full preterist beliefs. I'm not having a hard time with this at all. Why would I want to do something foolish like that when I know that He did not return...

Which question? I'm saying that you didn't address anything I said in post #281, which is true. My comments were very straightforward in post #281. There is no reason why you can't address them. I think you know that you can't refute anything I said there, so you decided to reply with...

This is completely false. The dead in Christ include all who have physically/bodily died since the beginning of time and are in Christ. They will not be resurrected bodily until His future second coming (1 Thess 4:14-17). No saint who bodily died ever lost consciousness. That is not taught in...

Weak response that doesn't address anything I said. Is this all you have to offer?

All of God's people, Jew and Gentiile, are His chosen. You need to read the New Testament. LOL. What Paul wrote is "pretty simple", but what you wrote is not simple at all. It's complete convoluted nonsense. Paul indicated that Christ Himself is the firstfruits. He's not referring to the...

Start being honest with the scriptures I present instead of only wanting to address the scriptures you present and then that won't happen. You talk constantly about interpreting a passage as plainly stated, but then you won't do that with passages like Revelation 1:5-6 and John 5:28-29. Why...

I have responded with scripture and you choose to ignore that. You clearly want no part of passages like Revelation 1:5-6 and John 5:28-29 because you know you can't reconcile passages like those with your interpretation of Revelation 20:1-6. You make your childish "plainly stated" argument...

I think that make a lot more sense than changing it to two (or more) completely different times that are coming when the dead are raised as Premil does. Eh? Yeah, I think so. That is what you do with John 5:28-29 and Revelation 1:5-6, but you are not being honest about that. You'd rather just...

When people are resurrected are they not alive? If you are referring to Rev 20:11-15 (I have to guess since you're so vague) then the dead there are not completely dead and unconscious or else how can they give an account of themselves and what they did during their lives? They are dead in the...

Make it 8 iterations by including Revelation 20:9. Come on, you can do it! ;)

They always take scripture as plainly stated except for when they don't.

I mostly agree and appreciate that you see the parallels in the book. So, which verses/passages do you see as mentioning the second coming? I'll try to guess. I'll say Rev 6:12-17, Rev 10:6-7, Rev 11:11-12, Rev 11:15-18, Rev 14:14-20, Rev 16:17-20 and Rev 19:11-21? As an Amil I would include...