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True. We have to recognize that ONLY Jesus can save us. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the (spoken) words of God. Without the power gifts of the Spirit, we cannot hear God. Faith is one of the gifts of Spirit. It is more powerful than the measure of faith given to all people to repent...

What did Jesus do.

That's what you've been told by people that do not have the Spirit to begin with, and erroneous twisting of Scripture leads to more false statements.

In what way?

This is very true. The gospel can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink. Repentance is the key to finding grace. And grace IS the power of God. In advanced studies on the language of the apostles and the style they write in which is key to understanding the meaning of their writings...

You never had any intention of telling me your definition of grace, because you don't know.

How do the apostles use it is the question. Do you know?

Thank you for the additional scriptures that prove my case. I appreciate it, but I had to stop somewhere or it would get too long. I am writing a book on it, so there is much more I could say. Part of the gospel is His teaching on being born again. It is Jesus that gives us His Spirit, and if...

What is his definition of grace and how grace benefits us?

@FHII So I told you, now its your turn. Stop playing games. I'll give you time to write, and I'll be back later. Happy typing.

No, dear, the power of God given to us is the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

I'm sorry, I thought I did. Tell me again what is the question? I though it was the meaning of grace, and I said the Power of God given to us to return to a righteous state of being. Tell me, if it is you that is playing games. You obviously are not reading the post. Am I just wasting time with...

I agree!!!! I can't say it enough!

I'm not talking about every subject, but major ones. What is his definition of grace?

Good, but didn't the law provide all that? What do you see is the major change between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant?

I will acquiesce, rather than have you think of me as being a liar, and playing games. I do know what I'm talking about. But will you take the time to read it and believe in the power of God? The New Covenant brought grace over law. But that doesn't mean we are lawless, and can do whatever our...

But what does grace accomplish in your definition? Does Jesus cover our sins so we can go on sinning without punishment, because Jesus took our punishment? Is that all He accomplished?

Then I would be learning false doctrine as you have. If his authority is not the Bible but his own study of other false teachers, what good is it. That is what you are doing. You've been brainwashed.

I wanted you to just comment on what I think you may believe. Was I right or wrong. And if wrong, what is it, and then I will answer.

Haven't you ever seen them write that obedience to God is works? I see you are still disparaging what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross, and the true meaning of grace.