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Agreed. If we see some person in need and we have the means to fill that need, we should be very happy to give. God does not bless us that way to keep it all to ourselves but, to bless others with what He has given us. We are His children no matter we own a house or a car...do you know how...

Hard to believe the poor are getting poorer and the middle class is and has been being snuffed out little by little. Sickening that the worlds "wealth" is in the hands of the very few. What's worse is that the large majority of people have no clue.

"Render unto Caeser..."

Maybe we should make a group prayer thread, we could all agree on a time of day/night that we will meet there...at the same time and lift this forum in prayer of agreement...God will surely hear us!

Indeed. It seems the opposite of fair, just compassionate or loving.

You, of course are free to express your views. I have been back and forth with this doctrine for a good 27 years and I find zero merit in it, nor do I see our compassionate God intentionally creating people specifically for hell. Trust me, I've heard all the scriptures and the...

Very well and gracefully written! :)

"And that is why its adherents tell us that we misunderstand *world*" (bolded mine) It ALWAYS comes down to this "misunderstanding" with them.

Good one Helen!

"Some will disagree but I believe he is talking about our physical birth "birth to flesh" in verse 5 and that there is another birth, "birth to spirit" which is accomplished by the Holy Spirit (NOT MAN)" I have thought this for sometime now. Have only brought it up a couple of times but most...

"And who on earth can wake up in the morning and straight away be that sharp!!" Apparently, @Hidden In Him In Him can :D

Ahaha...yes, I imagine it would...funny, because I am usually quite a stickler for spelling words correctly! Too much on the gray matter? :)

Ahaha...funny. I knew it looked wrong! Can one be "rehabbed" from treason?? :D

[/SIZE] Yes, Rehab is a good example. If I knew the command truly came from God, of course I would do it in a heart beat. His grace is sufficient for all things, this would be no different IMO...sure falls under the umbrella of "all things"...He is a way maker :)

I thought the same thing. And, isn't it "spiritual death" that came into the world? God did tell Adam and Eve they would surely die if they ate of that tree! Well, they were still living, breathing humans for many years before their death...

You goofyball..ahaha...you remind me of one of my brothers...he ALWAYS has comebacks like that :D

[/SIZE] "It only shows a misunderstanding of what they say." It always comes back to this Dave, eh?

All I will say on this subject is that it put a stumbling block before me in the 90's. Came back to make me "question" my salvation again just a short while ago. I am going to share a good breakdown of the scriptures used by Calvinists as, my gray matter needs allot of rest these days, lol...

Ty...sometimes things are so complicated and sometimes, to me they are simple as mama's apple pie! Ha!!

Thanks :) Politics...figures :rolleyes: