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  1. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    There is something to this logic but it goes against trinitarianism. We are all destined to be God (divinity in us). Christianity's end game. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom...
  2. Wrangler

    Why Do We Sin?

    Well, putting aside that I reject trinitarianism (and am a unitarian), I am differentiating between the <capacity to sin> from <the act or choice to sin>. There is an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation where Data played a game with a master. Although Data, an android, did not make a...
  3. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    And if Jesus sitting at God's right hand means he is God, does that, by extension, mean the Apostles are also God?
  4. Wrangler

    Why Do We Sin?

    Great question! I think the traditional denominations are anal about this sort of thing. I once listened to a sermon where the pastor stated that just because Jesus was sinless does not mean he did everything perfectly, such as always cutting the proper angle of wood as a carpenter. I relate to...
  5. Wrangler

    Why Do We Sin?

    Humans tend to take on human form and human nature.
  6. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    One thing that frustrates me about talking to religious people is their tendency to ask a question that was JUST answered. God is partial to his chosen people. What part of this do you not get? (My guess, is you have fallen victim to the Evil of Equality, which is why I started a thread about...
  7. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    This is the generic truth of the Bible, applicable to every book, chapter and verse. As my Bible Study leader was fond of saying, 'It's all about the glory of God.' Sin. Pride. The thinking a man is God. "Need" is a communist way of looking at the world. Pharaoh was under Judgment. Wringing...
  8. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    God is partial. The premise of your entire line of reasoning is flawed. God is partial to His chosen people.
  9. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    My Study Bible says it was about Judgment. My pastor say the meaning of 'hardening' the heart is to wring out what is already there.
  10. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    Sadly, you rely on deception. The verse does NOT say Jesus is the LORD, merely that he is Lord. I agree with 1 Corinthians 12:3, not your trinitarian usurpation of the Most High. 3 Therefore I want you to know that no one speaking by the [power and influence of the] Spirit of God can say...
  11. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    Like asserting nonsense, like the son is the father.
  12. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    In today's devotional reading, I read the most inspiring verse to me in all of Scripture, where Jesus states the purpose of his ministry in reading from Isaiah at Luke 4:18. 18 “The Spirit of Adonai is upon me; therefore he has anointed me to announce Good News to the poor; he has sent me to...
  13. Wrangler

    A Question About The Death and Resurrection of Christ

    Yes. I think you need to consider his death and resurrection as 2 distinct events. DEATH: His death is the ultimate, the purpose of the existence of the Messiah. It balanced the equation set wrong by Adam, who sinned in a perfect world. Jesus, sinless, died FOR a fallen world. His atoning...
  14. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    The other bizarre aspect to this idolatry is talking about love, love God, love your neighbor, etc. As soon as you suggest rejecting the man-is-God thesis, the vitriol, resorting to threats and insults come out. Even if so, 2 does not a trinity make. What do you think about my observation that...
  15. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    What concerns me is there are 5 states of matter. Trinitarians be like, "It's like the 3 foot groups or three vegetables or 3 meats." I be like: There is more than 3 in each category. Trinitarians be like ... crickets ... getting back to the 3 kids on the Brady Bunch and didn't you ever...
  16. Wrangler

    The Case Against the Trinity

    I’m glad you are invoking maybe, like the other poster invoked ‘can.’ Their entire proposition is speculative, like you can understand it as water or an egg. The other day was St Patrick’s Day. The shamrock is 3. Then when I introduce things that are >3, they get all indignant. I’m not playing...
  17. Wrangler

    A Christian who deny Jesus is God in Flesh

    Yet, he is referred to in the singular 5,000 times in the Bible. That could mean he is not any kind of plural.
  18. Wrangler

    Mary’s children?

    See my last post. I’ve already answered this question many times. If you cannot discern figurative from literal language, bless your heart.
  19. Wrangler

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    I like this point but realize the 'want' of God does not necessarily translate to Him over-riding people's will to remain unrepentant.