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  1. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Obviously, you have never been alone with God, speaking in tongues until you have lost all desire to sin after about a half hour or more(lost in the spirit of prayer). Obviously, when you pray you think and think and think and think while you tell God all of your carnal ideas and complaints...
  2. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Groaning that cannot be uttered is speaking about your carnal prayers vs your human spirit praying. Anybody can sit around thinking constantly about all of their issues and the things they have to do during the day while they are praying but speaking in unknown tongues in your prayer is your...
  3. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    That will do away with 1 Corinthians 14.
  4. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Pretty funny, huh? These men are full of new wine? Are you of that persuasion?
  5. Truther

    Why you don't have to speak in tongues - Or do you?

    Lesson 6- Page 9 This video can add to the subject
  6. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I think it is better to debate a cause without settling it then to settle it without debating it
  7. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Have you also engaged in preventing people from being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins?
  8. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You’re missing out on having your human spirit pray directly to God. The carnal man cannot pray like that. It is cluttered with carnal thoughts. It even shuts down our prayers unless we are in desperate situations. I sometimes pray with my human spirit to a point that I lose my desire to sin...
  9. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    According to Paul, it has great benefit to pray or speak in an unknown tongue. 2 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God, for in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. That’s why.
  10. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    There are many gifts and I agree. But the main gifts are the nine gifts of the spirit and first Corinthians chapter 12, and the other minor gifts are generally called ministration gifts. The problem that I have with debates are when two wrongs don’t make a right. For instance, a Trinitarian...
  11. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Acts 2:38. Correction. Paul taught it also.
  12. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That is because they don’t understand the difference between chapter 12 and chapter 14. Chapter 12 teaches that it is a division of gifts according to the will of God as God desires for people to have these particular gifts. Chapter 14 is about something taught that all have to have. Paul said...
  13. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Some people may have it and not practice it. I went through a dry spell for years and then prayed through in 1988 when that guy was preaching that Jesus would come in Rosh Hashanah in September 1988 it scared us all. I remember I spent several years not practicing tongues. But I had the Holy...
  14. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Paul said that all should speak in unknown tongues. He wished that all would speak in unknown tongues, but rather that they prophesy. That is the second level of speaking in tongues. God wants an interpretation now and then.
  15. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You do not have to be a Pentecostal to obey Acts 2:38. As a matter of fact, anybody that obeys Acts 2:38 are not necessarily called Pentecostal doctrine adherents but are of the church of 3000 at Pentecost. There is truly only one church. That is the church in Acts chapter 2. That is who I am...
  16. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    If you are a Trinitarian, then you are of the pope, correct? That is like comparing anybody that believes the events of book of acts with some kook in latter times. You make no sense. The only way you can individualize yourself from some group that believes like you do is to throw away your...
  17. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I am not teaching any religion. I’m teaching what happened in the book of acts in the Bible. Everybody else has to lineup with the book of acts. So do you.
  18. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I am saying that anybody in their right mind would want evidence that they have the Holy Ghost. Not by laying hands on your television set and some fake an evangelist telling you you have it because you confess Jesus. I want to feel it and experience it. Smart people will do that.
  19. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    The evidence of tongues started with acts, chapter 2. Various people had it in the Old Testament. John, the Baptist, Jesus, other prophets even Sail and David, had the spirit of God move on them. Tongues was reserved for the last day of church.
  20. Truther

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Yes, known languages, which are super naturally gifted, are found in first Corinthians chapter 12. The next chapter, it speaks that these gifts in chapter 12 will cease. That is at the second coming of Jesus. The next chapter which is chapter 14, and speaking of something called unknown tongues...