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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. You're always trying to change the subject instead of addressing the points that have been made. Hilarious. Tell me, does what is described in Revelation 12, which includes a description of the birth and ascension of Jesus, follow what is described at the end of Revelation 11, which is the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Don't ever call me "my boy" again. Unless you want me to put you on my ignore list. Up to you. LOL. Did you not read what I said about this? There is no direct relationship between 2 Peter 3:8-10 and Revelation 20:1-7 and I explained that. You tried criticizing me for not explaining scripture...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    LOL. That makes you a false teacher then since you never give a line by line explanation. I, however, have done that MANY times. Just ask others her like WPM or jeffweeder and they will confirm that for you.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    the 7th Trump

    That is quite wrong. That simply does not agree with other scriptures, but you don't seem to care about that. Other scriptures like 1 Thess 4:14-17 and 1 Cor 15:22-23 are quite clear that the souls of ALL dead believers will be with Him when He returns and all of them will be resurrected bodily...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    That's what I thought you believed and I agree. But, Timtofly said you "claim the events of the Second Coming as portrayed in Matthew 24 all happened in 70AD.". Just another lie from him.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Olivet Discourse revisited

    Which two? I was talking to covenantee. Do you mean him and Randy? I don't know if Randy believes that about Matthew 24, but I don't believe that covenantee does. @covenantee Do you believe that everything written about in Matthew 24 happened in 70 AD? Which part of it? Not all of it did. Luke...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No. Show me where scripture indicates that is required when you get water baptized. That is not what Acts 2:38 means. To be baptized in Jesus's name means to be baptized in His honor. Has nothing to do with having His name invoked over you when you are baptized. That's a ridiculous, childish way...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Oh, is it now? Really? Let's put that theory to the test, shall we? In terms of the order in which it was written, this: Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What I get is that you take everything out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 has nothing to do with the day of the Lord, but rather, in conjunction with verse 9, has to do with the fact that the Lord is not being slow to keep His promise of coming again. From His perspective outside of the realm of time...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    So, you expect me to break everything down sentence by sentence when you don't come anywhere near doing that yourself. I see. I have explained what I believe MANY times on this forum for all to see, so I don't need you to try to tell me what I should be doing.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    When will the "sudden destruction" from which "they will not escape" referenced in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occur and what is the scope of it?

    You don't give that impression with the way you respond to those who disagree with you. You can't possibly think you can be taken seriously when you resort to nonsense like saying being "in Christ" and being "in Jesus" are different things. It is IMPOSSIBLE to take that seriously. So, if you're...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    THE DAY OF THE LORD

    You are not called to that any more than I am. Get off your high horse and humble yourself if you want to actually learn anything. You clearly have learned nothing after all of these years. We both believe we are called to teach prophecy, so that is not the difference between us. You have...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    the 7th Trump

    I don't believe that. You must have misunderstood what I said. Revelation 19 does not specifically reference what is described in 1 Thess 4:16-18. Not every passage regarding the second coming of Christ contains all of the same details. If you read 1 Thess 4:14-5:3 as one narrative then it can...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    the 7th Trump

    That is the pre-trib rapture theory (I guess mid-tribs believe that, too). You shouldn't be so ignorant about what others believe. The rapture is simply a term to refer to the dead in Christ and those who are alive and remain being caught up to meet the Lord in the air, as Paul writes about in 1...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The souls of the dead in Christ. John saw the souls of the dead in Christ in heaven and wrote about it (Revelation 6:9-11, Revelation 20:4).
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    The souls of the dead in Christ and His angels. Who said there is no rapture? The disagreement people have is over the timing of the rapture in relation to the tribulation. Or did you mean to ask "if there is no pre-trib rapture"? If there was a pre-trib rapture and we were first caught up in...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    PAUL WROTE DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PRETRIB RAPTURE TEACHERS

    There is no difference between the day of Christ and the day of the Lord. Other translations even have "the day of the Lord" there instead of "the day of Christ". There is no basis whatsoever for making this distinction. Paul was talking about the day that Christ returns and we're gathered to...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    No Resurrection, No Millennium

    I didn't say otherwise. Right. And she died again later, too. The word resurrection can refer to different things, but it generally means to be brought from death to life. It can refer to someone being resurrected from the dead back in their mortal body or, in the case of Jesus and those who...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    when the vestiges of imperialism are removed

    That's a lie. I am not removing any literal words. I am recognizing the symbolic words used to reference the things that the symbolic woman sits on (many waters, the beast with seven heads and ten horns, and the seven mountains) and determining what those symbols mean in reality. So, I am not...