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    He is a Jew, He is not a Jew: the physical seed of promise

    Just adding to comment about circumcision. Circumcision of the Heart, was not something new in the NT.
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    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Same for us. We have not watched TV for years. Although a member here, Don't participate in the "social" sites. Restaurants, fast food, maybe a couple times a year. Not a crowd fan. Yet well aware of how fast crazy the world is spinning.
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    He is a Jew, He is not a Jew: the physical seed of promise

    Hi robert~ Circumcision has always Spiritually been about the Heart. Years of bondage, records confiscated, hidden, destroyed, Gentiles influences, I consider perhaps Jews did not know what was "hinted" or kept "secret". Traditions seems to be kept more readily than Script among Jews, subject...
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    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Hi marks ~ I can't comment on Calvinism, not studied on that. But to your comment... I am reminded; The converted are converted because of their Freewill to Confess. The Lord "accepts" the body as dead (crucified with Christ) The Lord "restores" the soul (Pss 23:3) The Lord "quickens" the...
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    new version of OSAS?

    No. Moreso, there is Salvation 'apart' from "understanding". Heb 13: [8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Whether not not a man "understands" the Lamb was slain before man was created. The man who believes the Word of God, whether or not the man knows His name...
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    new version of OSAS?

    Faith IS required BEFORE a heart is opened. Lydia already had Faith IN God. Lydia Hearing Pauls preaching of the Word of God...Gave Lydia Faith in the Lord. The Lord Opening her Heart that she might believe what she was hearing. (By knowing the "ending", we already have been taught, what one...
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    new version of OSAS?

    Yes God creates according to His Will. God makes according to His Will. God made man Alive with man own Freewill. What God Offers man man may Freely elect to Take or Reject. God gives man beneficial guidance and foreknown consequences for mans choices. Adam was Created a body of dust with a...
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    new version of OSAS?

    Taken said; Worshipping God did not mean "SAV-ED". The POINT IS: WHAT & WHEN The difference of WHAT was was OFFERED (By God), AGREED (By men), GIVEN (By God) RECEIVED (by men). In the OT: FAITH-ful men (to God) were OFFERED "Salvation" BY a Promise (a Covenant); By Gods Word, that; *...
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    new version of OSAS?

    God in Heaven, By His Will, Prepared a Body, For His Word, Gave that Body, in the likeness as a man, To the world. (That Body, had a soul, had a spirit which was NOT Given to the world...ONLY the Body God prepared Was Given TO the World.) * God prepared and GAVE a BODY to the World. Heb...
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    new version of OSAS?

    Grace has multiple meanings. What does "Gods grace given" mean to you? Thanks. Taken
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    There Ain’t No Way This Guy Is Saved......Right?

    SAVED. Judgement will be like for any other Saved soul. Works that do not glorify God, Burned. Given the crown of life.
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    Why I believe in the rapture.

    Okay, let's be honest. Matt 7: [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. BTW, this thread is about the Rapture, which the Rapture is not about going to Heaven.
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    new version of OSAS?

    Tong ~ Curious, how can a man Receive Salvation without first being Offered Salvation?
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    new version of OSAS?

    Disagree, but okay for you.
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    new version of OSAS?

    Sure God offers Salvation to a corrupt man. He doesn't save the saved. He saves the unsaved, the corrupt. He saves the man dead in his sins... Dead meaning separated from God. Col 2: [13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him...
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    new version of OSAS?

    . No. I know Lydia was a worshipper of God, because Scripture says so, and I trust the Scriptures are True. No. I do not assume or consider Lydia worshipped any other gods, because nothing Scripturally says so. Uh... Worshipping God did not mean "SAV-ED". Worshipping God Certainly meant, the...
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    new version of OSAS?

    I disagree with your assumptions and implications. Men worshipping God do not have a heart that is CLOSED unto God. Men who have NOT heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ, HAVE a heart that is Closed unto JESUS. It stands to reason, you can not be OPEN, to consider or believe what you have NOT...
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    new version of OSAS?

    In brief; Man IS formed dust of the earth. Man with Gods Breath, IS formed dust of the earth WITH Life (from God) in the formed thing called man. Man was created with a BRAIN, the Brain, (if you have ever seen one (which I have), or perhaps seen a picture of a Brain, it looks like grey sausage...
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    new version of OSAS?

    Okay. Correct Freewill was NOT an Offering...(that a man can choose to take it or leave it) Freewill was Gods "MAKING" in His created man. I don't think we have disagreement on the Big Picture, but more so on details
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    new version of OSAS?

    Both. Salvation is Saving ones soul. Abraham was Offered Salvation of his soul. Abrahams was Offered the Promise of soul Salvation. His soul Salvation could not be "accomplished" at that time, before his physical death. Abrahams soul Salvation was thus a Promise to BE accomplished, at his...