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  1. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No way God can do this to them?.... 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the...
  2. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.... 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen...
  3. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Here is what it says.... 14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth...
  4. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Of course we are grafted into the same tree(God) that future saved national Israel will be at the return of Christ at this event.... 14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the...
  5. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the...
  6. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Are you guys jealous of this?... 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.... 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the...
  7. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do you hate the Jews?
  8. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The question and answer is about the restoration of the kingdom to Israel. You know, every verse and passage in the OT prophets that we have been discussing. Jesus told them it is not for them to know when this will occur. You know exactly what is going on here. Admit it... 6 When they...
  9. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Question... 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Answer... 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. Read.
  10. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. What was this discussion in Acts 1 about?
  11. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Are you saying that you believe that the promise is NOT to you but you are included in future national Israel's promise per Jer 31?
  12. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What meaneth this?... 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
  13. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Nope, I am heavily consumned by God's promise to the fathers. Hey, check this out that you overlooked.... 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know...
  14. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Amils and preterists.
  15. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The good tree is God. We are grafted into the same tree as they will be. This is why we are partaker in their future fulfilled promise to the fathers.
  16. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am part of true Israel, also. But I am in future saved national Israel's promise(covenant). All of them will be simultaneously saved. It is the pattern for me, as I was included in their future fulfilled promise.... 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the...
  17. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You really don't understand the promise to the fathers. The entire Bible is pointing to that.
  18. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    In your mind, national Israel via their promise to the fathers.
  19. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Easy... 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel...
  20. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ... Good to know we are saved without remission of our sins, huh? Who taught you that stuff??? Acts skippers? They taught you to skip Acts and go straight to the...