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  1. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    James says we are firstfruits here.... 18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Now, are you a firstfruit too? Yes or no?
  2. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    How does the tree of life become "enjoying life" instead of the tree in paradise that Jesus vividly described in Rev 2? 7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the...
  3. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You teach there is NO tree of life to eat from just the opposite of what Jesus taught in Rev 2 and you are not a preterist? You are real close to a preterist, as you teach a literal tree of life in a literal paradise are fictitious statements of Jesus.
  4. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Does 1 Thes 4 and James 2 make us the resurrected firstruits? Yep, then there are 2 sets of firstfruits per your logic.
  5. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is a man made fairy tale?... 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand...
  6. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The preterist teaches the WE are the tree of life per Rev 2. They teach that Jesus taught that we will EAT EACH OTHER!
  7. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What is the tree of life in Rev 2 that Jesus said we would eat of, symbolic of?
  8. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Are we also considered the firstfruits here per James 2? 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with...
  9. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is Jesus the lone firstfruit or plural firstfruits?
  10. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Preterists teach this is what Jesus really meant.... 7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the FICTITIOUS tree of life, which is in the midst of the FICTICIOUS paradise of God.
  11. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Preterists teach this is what Jesus really meant.... 7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the FICTITIOUS tree of life, which is in the midst of the FICTICIOUS paradise of God.
  12. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
  13. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, let's talk about that. Jesus said the tree of life is edible and in heaven. You are calling Jesus a liar.
  14. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No, here are the firstfruits too... 18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. Is Christ alone the firstfruits or us with him?
  15. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Okay good, we get a new body. Now, do we eat of the tree of life in our new bodies or not?
  16. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You. Do we eat of the actual tree of life in heaven or not?
  17. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    "Afterward they" is the same group as "Christ the firstfruits"? Something like this?... But every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits WHICH ARE Christ's at his coming?
  18. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Now, is the spiritual BODY a BODY or a spirit?
  19. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    We are resurrected "spirits"? What will we be eating? Of the spirit tree of life?