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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    In the case of some people, it seems to be any lengths. Which is sad to see.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    It seems that you are not differentiating between Christ's church and the churches that are addressed in the New Testament. The church is a term used to reference the corporate body of Christ of which only those who belong to Christ are part. Paul described it here as "a holy temple in the...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    If someone is not in the faith then he or she is not a Christian. Period. This passage does not indicate that someone who is not in the faith is a Christian. This verse does not say that an unbeliever can be considered a Christian. If Paul was disqualified for the prize then that would mean he...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    Based on what was previously discussed before you said this, it appears that you're claiming that someone can be a Christian without having the Holy Spirit dwelling in them? Is that what you believe? If so, what scriptures support that idea?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Why I'm Premil

    This is not what we're talking about, though. There were no Christians yet at that time. We're talking about the concept of Christian nations. Where is THAT taught in scripture? So far in this post you still have not provided any scripture regarding the topic at hand, which is CHRISTIAN nations...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is there an auto reply feature on this forum that you're using to say the same things over and over again or are you doing that manually?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thanks, Jeff. I appreciate that. The same point can be made regarding Paul's description of the day of the Lord in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. He, too, made it clear that the destruction he referenced was something that could potentially occur in the lifetimes of his readers which is why he told...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Why do you keep saying this? The scope goes beyond just the soldiers, as I have shown you. Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I fully agree. We have tried to do that and he refuses to address our points. Let's move on and not waste any more of our time talking to a robot.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You say "of course", but I think most Premils would say that the "sudden destruction" that Paul references in 1 Thess 5:2-3 occurs on the day Christ returns, not 1,000+ years later. So, that's why I asked you that question. Your interpretation of 1 Thess 5:2-3 is at least consistent with your...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You think wrong. You can say a lot of things about me, but accusing me of not reading the scriptures carefully enough is not one of them. I study the scriptures very carefully. I believe I study them far more carefully than you do. I do. No, I'm not. It says He will destroy "all people, free and...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What are you talking about here? What exactly prompted you to say that and what does this even mean? You need to learn how to communicate in a way that can be understood. I didn't say that Antiochus Epiphanes had anything to do with Daniel 9:27. Are you just making things up randomly in your...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I've never seen anything quite like it, either. He just refuses to acknowledge and address any of our points that show the flaws in his view. These forums are made for people to be able to have back and forth discussions with each other where each person addresses what the other person says...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Agree. Whenever someone has an interpretation all to themselves, as Truth7t7 does in this case, that should automatically raise a red flag. God does not reveal things like this to just one person. Of course, I'm not saying the majority is always right or anything like that. But, the truth is...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm not claiming that is now. But, you need to read that more carefully. It's talking about when the Father begins to reign. When it says "our Lord" there, it's referring to the Father and then it says "and of his Christ". For now, the Father has given all authority to His Son, as Jesus Himself...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I did and I showed you how it should be understood. As usual, you did not specifically address anything I said. If you think just responding with "Negative" is a case of addressing what I said, you are fooling yourself. There will be no doubt when He comes. I don't know what you're talking...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?

    Why do you not take other scripture into account when interpreting Revelation 20:11-15? Jesus said that all of the dead will be resurrected, including all of the unsaved. Your interpretation contradicts what Jesus taught here: John 5:28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Will there be or is there a need for a future Messianic age?

    Translation: You are not able to defend your beliefs and back up your claims with scripture. I believe the inspired word of God. It's very clear that you have nothing to teach me.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No possibility of Jesus already ruling and us ruling with Him? Really? Have you never read this: Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Exactly. He just blatantly ignores our questions and points and never addresses them. He knows he has no answers, but just repeats the same rhetoric over and over again without addressing the holes in his view.