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"So I'm happy to hear you're not calvinist. This is why: It changes the nature of God. God is love. 1 John 4:8 How does a God of love predestinate some to hell through no fault of their own??" Why do not others see how horrible this doctrine is?? Great post @GodsGrace

I would change the word Homosexual to pedophile...

faults” παραπτώματα, A side-slip (lapse or deviation), i.e., (unintentional) error or (wilful) transgression faults. I would see this word as meaning sins.

BTW- Not all Calvinists are 5 pointers...

:( Oh, the humanity of it all!!

Okay, I know it is inevitable with all of us on here, I have had an attack or two. Pretty much ignore those, unless it changes core Christian beliefs! I am glad you and GG know each other enough to speak openly like that, now let's all go back to the play box :D

I thought "limbo" was just another name for purgatory...

Oh, i'm not liking my two favorite warrior sisters at odds. :(

Bahahahaha- I was about to ask which one was him! :D

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The purgatory thing was quite the profitable doctrine for them. Someone once told me why we protestants do not have as many books as the Catholics...all I remember is one thing and no haven't even looked into it bu, he said it's because in either one or more of those extra books, there is...

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OOOOOHHHH! :oops: Sry bout dat o_O

Yes, I pretty much agree with what you say except for God "made" sin. God created Lucifer, then his name became Satan because of his pride. Satan was in the garden and was used BY GOD to tempt mankind, mankind disobeyed God, hence "sin entered into the world". God can, obviously do anything...

You said:- "This is what is taught --- God does not FORCE anyone to Him, He just MAKES THEM WANT to go to Him. That, Helen, is taking away my free will to really choose. That IS forcing me to go to Him and not leaving the choice up to me." I think I now see where you are coming from @"ByGrace"...

Ah yes, yes. Wise choice as usual my fellow faithful warrior sister. We can NOT have that.

At the end of 1 Corinthians 16:22 Paul says that if anyone does not love the Lord let him be accursed. How could we be accursed of something if we have no choice over it! That very statement proves that we can, of our own free will, either love the Lord or not love the Lord. Awesomness! In a...

BTW-I have a very good friend who also suffers with MS, some of her symptoms are similar to yours. Just know we are fighting all the time for this cause! may God bless and keep you in His hand sister, -nancy

.... Careful. :)

Yes, we could do as the world and make hay of him but, since we as Christians, are above that. Shall we spare him sister G?