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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    No, not at all. Yep. And, as I've pointed out many times to Premils, what is described in Revelation 20:6 has been a reality for Christians since Christ's death and resurrection and still is a current reality both for living Christians and the dead in Christ. So, with that in mind, why insist...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Up to that point I can see that as being a possibility, but what about the rest of the chapter? I don't know how that fits. But, we can agree to disagree on this. The foundation of my doctrine is not based on more difficult scripture like that, but rather on clear scripture like 2 Peter...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    So, by referencing that verse are you implying that you think I'm not saved and am perishing? That's certainly how it comes across. If so, you better take that back or you will be judged with the same measure that you're judging me. Of course I'm not saying that. Don't be so ridiculous. I...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    The presence of the word "if" there means it's possible for evil to exist during that time (which I don't believe represents a thousand years after the return of Christ). But, you think it's not possible for evil to exist during that time. Why would the warning be given if it wasn't possible...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    And how do you know that exactly? I'm not saying you're wrong, necessarily, but I'd like to know how you know that. Was a survey of many people who believe in OSAS done or something?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    As was pointed out by praise_yeshua, you are not taking Gentiles into account here. Aren't Gentile believers also born of the Spirit? Surely, Gentiles are not obligated to follow the law (neither are Jews anymore). So, I don't buy what you're saying here at all.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I haven't heard of the new OSAS. So, they think someone can reject God, blaspheme against Him, sin all they want, worship Satan, etc. and still be saved? Wow. That's beyond ridiculous. Are there many people who believe that nonsense?
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that Jesus was indicating that natural birth wasn't enough for someone to enter the kingdom of God. I'm not just talking about Jews here, I'm talking about anyone who thinks that there's something naturally special about them (being Jewish is only an...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    That's the post I was responding to. What you said there does not mean that someone can't leave and forsake God. If someone leaves and forsakes God that does not mean He leaves and forsakes them.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    As far as John 3:3-5 is concerned, no, He wasn't just making the point that you have to be physically birthed. He was making the point that it's not enough to just be birthed physically in order to enter the kingdom of God, but you also must be born spiritually of the Holy Spirit. Many Jews...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Oh, you think it's funny that you didn't give the impression that you read any further? That's interesting. Yes, you definitely are interpreting verses without taking scripture as a whole into account. No, you are not reading the passage carefully. Your doctrine is entirely based on taking...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    How does what you're saying line up with what Jesus taught here: John 15:5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. IF you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 IF you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You quoted John 14:16. Do you see the word "may" in there? That doesn't imply it is something that happens for certain. And have you never read John 15? John 15:1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Did you stop reading in Romans at Romans 11:6? If so, you should have read further. You should not interpret any given verse in scripture in such a way that contradicts other scripture. But, that is exactly what you're doing. Romans 11:30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You seem to be completely missing the point. If we forsake God and fall away, has He left us and forsaken us? No. We would have left and forsaken Him in that case.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    We are the Priests of Revelation 20

    You missed the point. Your Premillennialist doctrine doesn't make sense because scripture says we (the church) were made priests in Christ's kingdom ("a royal priesthood") long ago already (see 1 Peter 2:9-10 and Revelation 1:5-6). What does that tell you about how Revelation 20:6 should be...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    Right. It indicates that the seventh trumpet signals that "the time has come for judging the dead". And Revelation 20:11-15 makes it clear that the time of judging the dead occurs AFTER the thousand years (and Satan's little season). Therefore, Christ will return and the seventh trumpet will...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    But, you have not proven that they occur 1000+ years apart. What Jesus said in John 5:28-29 makes it impossible for the resurrection of the righteous and resurrection of the wicked to be 1,000+ years apart. He spoke of one singular event that is coming during which the resurrection of ALL of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    LOL. And the word rapture isn't in 1 Thess 4:14-17, so that means that passage isn't about the rapture? Come on. Please don't waste time with weak argument like this. Look at the passage again: Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

    You're just ignoring the context of what Jesus said and not using scripture to interpret scripture. He said there is a single time (day, event) coming when ALL of the dead will be resurrected. You are turning the one resurrection event of all of the dead that Jesus talked about into two...