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  1. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Calm down, Barney. Death in the natural is only physical, not spiritual. Just like sleep in the natural is not sleep in the spirit world. Jesus is the firstborn of the resurrection, meaning the millions upon millions of saints will all follow our "last Adam" to our resurrection. Abandon the...
  2. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Are the "most intelligent people" and "historians" biased? Is only modern news corrupt? Are ancient writings verified by a consensus of opinion(was anyone there to corroberate)? Sole Scriptura....don't quote extra Biblical references for doctrine.
  3. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    The fact that man is a living soul means that man lives forever. It is an invisible part of the human spirit of man. Man was made in the image of Jesus Christ...body soul and spirit. Only the body of Jesus could die, not his soul and spirit. Same as we.
  4. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    The Bible. And the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The Bible is factual history. Don't quote some feller in history that cannot corroborate what he is saying. For all we know, the RCC had it "preserved" as if it is all true. Funny how our Bibles are copies and copies of copies, but the copies and...
  5. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Actually, they have come to all of those invisible entities. We are just one heartbeat away from seeing them.
  6. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    The spirits of just men made perfect seen in Heaven(Heb 12) are quite active for being asleep.
  7. Truther

    Father in the Son

    The I Am was speaking THROUGH him.
  8. Truther

    Father in the Son

    It was everything to him. He said the Father inside him doeth the works(and speaks through him) per John 14.
  9. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Read prior chapters. Multitudes in previous chapters praising God in heaven. If you would like, I will post them.... Chapter 5... 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy...
  10. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Prior to the completion of the 1st resurrection in chapter 20, the sleeping saints are incredibly active in the book of Rev.
  11. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Those that are part of the first resurrection are needed to reign with Christ on earth as the judicial system for the Millennial. There will be no more politics, dictators or elected officials. The saints shall judge the earth instead. What will be amazing is this... “And sware by him that...
  12. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    In a nutshell?...To give God the last word to satan. 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel... 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound...
  13. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Face it..you believe ancient fake history over Jesus' words. Jesus said they ..... "shall be led away captive into all nations". You have them back in power a generation later. Jesus said....." and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."...
  14. Truther

    I have a confession to make

    Why is it difficult to believe in a resurrection if you believe in a Creator?
  15. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Chapter 5... 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we...
  16. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Nope. The 144,000 are merely included in the 1st resurrection count. They will be murdered by the antichrist system in the great tribulation period. They are on earth prior to chapter 14, and in heaven by chapter 14. They will be resurrected(given new bodies to reign in) in Rev 20, to be...
  17. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    You kinda believe Jesus then. How were they dispersed from Jerusalem and the city trodden down of the Gentiles per Jesus' words until the times of the gentiles would be fulfilled, and the Jews still be in power? The only reality is a pack of them tried to stand up to their Roman captors and...
  18. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Don't be silly, Barney. The "spirits of just men made perfect" are right there with the invisible God, with the invisible Jesus, with the innumerable host of invisible angels and in the New Jerusalem city.... in the invisible realm. Too bad your Watchtower magazine don't have artists to draw...
  19. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    They still exist and await resurrection into a new body..... 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to...
  20. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    We are not Adam and Eve, Barney. Did you know that our new Father is the last Adam, and that the last Adam is our resurrect-er?