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  1. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Well, Jesus comes to us as individuals VIA the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The rapture is a coming in a sense on the unsaved of the earth but only to take the bride instantaneously before opening the seals and unleashing the vials. This is not to be confused as "the day of the Lord" or 'the...
  2. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Hi Billy. Here are the bulk of the Tribulation Martyrs.... 14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as...
  3. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    The day of the Lord is AFTER the catching away. They must not be confused. The saints IN HEAVEN per Rev 19 and Zech 14 return with Christ to end the Great Tribulation....AFTER the marriage. Read it for yourself..... 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of...
  4. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    I respect that Randy, however, we must follow the evidence in all cases. For an example, the preterist says that the Lord returned 2000 years ago in the DUST CLOUDS of the Romans assaulting Jerusalem in 70ad...cough, cough...LOL. They use Josephus etc. to propose such "evidence". I know you...
  5. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    No, the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be... The dead in Christ rise prior to the Millennium per Rev 20....this is the 1st resurrection After the Millennium, only those that are not saints will rise. 1 Cor 15 was not written to sinners, and it is...
  6. Truther

    If this is all christianty has

    You skipped Acts 2:38 too.
  7. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Let's review it... 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.("We" as in the living)...
  8. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Yep, since there is no historical evidence that any of the wrath of God from Rev chapters 6-18 has happened, then it has not. There is only alot of build up in the last century for it to transpire in the future.
  9. Truther

    If this is all christianty has

    ...especially Christians skipping Acts 2:38.
  10. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    You chose well my friend. You picked the name of Jesus over the titles. You are officially in the Acts church. Without the name of Jesus invoked, one is just a rat in a maze....
  11. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    So we will witness all of Rev 16 untouched? Is there a divine force field placed over saints during the events of Rev 6-16?
  12. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    Just image that happening in the Apostles' day. I guess when the cat's away the mice play.
  13. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    ...and it is so very easy to obey. Kinda strange.
  14. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    THE Great Tribulation was designed to cause mankind to repent before the 2nd coming of Christ..... 16 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial...
  15. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    The dead sleep. We shall not all sleep. It's really that simple.
  16. Truther

    Is pre-tribulation rapture a doctrine of demons?

    As long as it is not THE Great Tribulation, we can survive it.;)
  17. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    I agree that 1967 was the beginning of the end of Luke 21:24 fulfillment. Now, Trump really put it officially as the capital of Israel(Jews) in the eyes of the world. It took that many years for this prophecy to be fulfilled. Uh oh!
  18. Truther

    One taken to heaven and the other left to face the Tribulation...

    Please show me a historical account of when any of this already happened in the last 2000 years?.... 6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that...