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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    No. I commented on those who ARE NOT accountable for sin. Adam "DISOBEYED" God. No mention of "SIN" was Knowledge given Adam. What Scripture NOTIFIES man Hundreds of years AFTER Adams Death: IS: [12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    You really need to Learn the Difference Between Scripture saying "I WAS", and YOUR PREACHING "ARE NOT". You are QUOTING YOUR Preferred VERSION of Scripture, and THEN PREACHING THE OPPOSITE.... Good grief man, Stop telling me what VERSION of Scripture I must use... You can't even AGREE with...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    I Disagree with how you dance around with your words to explain and conclude your position. Every earthly person is conceived in sin and born in sin. Every Saved Person is Forgiven their sin. A Person incompetent to reason to come to the Lord God, is Forgiven and Saved BY His CHOICE. Pss 51...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    Let's see how that works. Again you say, if you do not know, it is NOT SIN. So, if a person is born NOT KNOWING God, and you say that IS NOT SIN.... What does that mean OTHER THAN you are teaching People are BORN WITHOUT SIN? Gory to God, Taken
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    Eh, no. Forgiveness is a pardoning of sin. Salvation is Saving of the mans soul. You are advocating some people are born Holy, without sin. That is in error. Those without the capability to Reason are forgiven for being born in sin and corruption of their soul. Glory to God, Taken
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    Yes. Because they ARE DIFFERENT. Belief is the Willing ACT of a man. Faith is a GIFT from God "for" the mans Belief. Okay, the equation was your view. I Disagree. Glory to God, Taken
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    No, I do not have a problem. I have different understanding than you. Giving me examples of Secular faith, is not necessary. I fully comprehend a secular faith, confidence, hope, trust....and at any time that can change; Unlike FaithFULLNESS a converted man receives from God...does NOT...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    Disagree. Faith IN God is spiritual, and is gifted to men Viaa thee Lord God who IS Spirit. Natural "faith", is not "spiritual faith". I would say that hinges more on secular "Confidence" rather than "spiritual Faith". ANY man "HEARING" the Word of God is being Enlightened to the Truth...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    I would say, belief is required, but ability to reason is not required. Glory to God, Taken
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    Green newDeal

    Some time ago I spent 8 months in a daily indepth study of Revelations. Much of Prophecy has been fulfilled and Revelations recaps on a broad spectrum...and reveals what Shall come into fruition. You are welcome. Some before the Throne of David with their Lord God seated upon the Throne...
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    Green newDeal

    Corruption is nothing new. The methods are not new or news, simply the same old tricks with a new twist. Everything has a snowball effect. We can be part of the corrupt effect. Or Know it is prophesied and observe the signs as it gets crazy. And spend our efforts in the Word and enjoy it's...
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    Does God Know

    Yes. Disagree. God knows ALL things. Men WAIT to see what they will Beleive; God doesn't. God Bless, Taken
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    Brunei

    It's a BIG Picture in All of Scripture. A Spiritual God, teaching men (FIRST) According to what a NATURAL man can understand. Natural men understand; what makes sense to their carnal mind, and what their natural eyes can See. God is trying to Transform natural men into Spiritual men. Which...
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    Brunei

    The Government is an institution. Men are created Living terrestrials. I can have compassion for men, without consideration of a Government institution. Jesus' message about GIVING/FEEDING can be taken TWO WAYS. Secularity: Stuff an others stomach, with a temporary Fix, LIKE was the Manna men...
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    Not sure what you mean. Don't know if this is your example of Christians playing semantic games....or your understanding of Faith and Belief in a math equation. Glory to God, Taken
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    Are You Saved Because You Believe OR Do You Believe Because You Are Saved?

    No. Belief is a mans freewill choice. Faith is a gift from God from men who freely choose to Believe. Men who believe, receive measures of faith. Men who continue to beleive, receive more faith. Men who stop believing, stop receiving faith and are called having fallen from faith. Without a man...
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    Could the disciples have lost their salvation?

    I wouldn't say something being prophesied means a person knows it is about them. Go ahead... :) God Bless, taken
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    Green newDeal

    Not Lost, but rather disgustingly Imbalanced. The Federal Government has a very SMALL Constitutional Function. When "PEOPLE" beg to BE the Governments "DEPENDANTS"... "Wringing hands", the Government is HAPPY TO TAKE on the PEOPLE as "DEPENDANTS" of the Government. Because you do realize...