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  1. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one...
  2. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    I have no idea what you are talking about. A debate is judging?
  3. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Truther... 23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. BOL... 23 The Pope is my shepherd; I shall not want. LOL
  4. Truther

    How should the church service be structured

    I was an idolator from my RCC youth until adulthood. I was taught idolatry from the RCC. I shook the hook and stopped bowing before the statue of Joseph, Mary and the baby Jesus in 1979. You should be proud of me for coming out from "her and not being a future partaker of her plagues".
  5. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    No, I am trying to tell folks that "the LORD is their Shepherd...." They don't want the Lord to be that ONE Shepherd in their lives as Jesus insisted in John 10, but would rather have tangible, sinful and deceive-able men as carnal, right now over the phone and in person, shepherds, since they...
  6. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    There is no original Greek, but copies. Also, translated as shepherd by whom?
  7. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    You skip Jesus and go to another shepherd instead?
  8. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Jesus said he (there)shall be ONE Shepherd. Not yet?
  9. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    There is no original Greek. All are copies. You only have copies and access to someones modern idea of what these copies say. I use the 400 year old translators as my Greek definitions, since there were 50 of them and they were ancient like their materials. These 50 did not, one time, call...
  10. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Jesus never appoints shepherds. He appointed ELDERS(Pastors etc) He is the one Shepherd of John 10. One means one. Your modern version redefined the word for elder to shepherd, not realizing Jesus dekunked this idea in John 10. They wanted a piece of Jesus' flock. I am sure it has something...
  11. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one...
  12. Truther

    How should the church service be structured

    Well, I used to practice that phony, unBiblical RCC lifestyle...Stand, sit, kneel...stand, sit, kneel...pray to statues....dip in "holy water"...speak or pray in vain repetitions together...etc. Egad!
  13. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Yes, a pastor is an elder, which was spoken of all through Acts(notice "pastor" never even mentioned again).
  14. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    No, the biased phony modern version says "shepherd". Why does the ancient KJV not say "shepherd"? Because they knew there was only one Shepherd, so they called the elder, the pastor. I would never, ever, call myself a shepherd to Christ's flock...that's TREASON!
  15. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Excellent! Now, the next time some fella tells you he is your shepherd, you let him know you already have a Shepherd(Jesus), and no thanks.
  16. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    Correct, so "pastors", by scriptural definition, are "elders", not "shepherds".
  17. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    There is no such ministry found in the KJV. The modern versions have inserted "shepherd", as they debunk Jesus in John 10. He appointed many minister types, but no(zero) replacement shepherds. The RCC instituted this replacement shepherd idea so they can get us to tell our sins to them, etc.
  18. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    He has volunteer helpers. Not volunteer replacement shepherds.
  19. Truther

    How should the church service be structured

    All of it. The entire mass is a mix of Christianity, Judaism and Paganism. The program of that magnitude is not Biblical, but commentary based. Stand, sit, kneel...stand, sit, kneel...pray to statues....dip in "holy water"...speak or pray in vain repetitions together...etc.
  20. Truther

    WHY IS THE CHURCH GOING OUT BACKWARD?

    You think you own who you feed. I feel sorry for the folks in the soup lines you help feed folks in. I bet you thought you were a General when you served troops too.