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It is OBVIOUS, "your" understanding and "my" understanding is NOT THE SAME. "WHAT" exactly must "YOU" "endure" to your death? Well, ya, IT IS. PAY attention to what Scripture SAYS. It is a HISTORICAL ACCOUNT of MENS beliefs and MEN "changing" what they BELIEVE. No one said "He...

What a minute.... How about YOU define what "Epignosis" means...ACCORDING TO YOUR understanding.

What you FAIL to comprehend...."IS" the "CONDITIONS" for a man to "cooperate", "IS" "BEFORE" the man "IS" Converted. Hear Learn Follow Believe Call on the Lord in heartfelt Belief Become Converted Those are things AN UNSAVED MAN DOES... TO BECOME "CONVERTED", 'BY' and through Christ Jesus...

No. It has not been proven, it simply has been claimed. There is no scripture that comes to such a "therefore" conclusion, that contradicts Jesus' teaching. "THAT" being what you CALL your holy father, had nothing to do with the point of "sufficiency" of the Lord to Convert a man ONCE...

ONCE....forgiven, for your disbelief ONCE...washed, sanctified, justified, by God ONCE....saved, unto the Lord ONCE....born again, with Gods Seed ONCE....indwelt with the Holy Spirit THESE are ACTS of God, He performs ONCE and FOREVER. ONCE performed...NO MAN can separate you ever again FROM...

You making claims for others, they did not make, is not proving one wrong. You, making disparaging comments toward others, is not proving one wrong. You, disagreeing with others is not proving the other wrong. You, using carnal understanding, against spritual understanding, does not prove the...

Acknowledging men as "daddy's" and "daddy figures" is one thing. Scripture is clear about actually ADDRESSING men on earth. Matt 23:9 ...."CALL" no man "YOUR FATHER" upon the earth, ....For (because) "ONE" "IS" "YOUR FATHER", which is in heaven. A man WHO IS "IN" Christ, takes ON Jesus' Holy...

THEN THEY WERE NOT BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!

Uh .... QUOTE ME saying what you said FOR ME......oh right, you can't....because YOU are speaking FOR ME.....AGAIN!

Try explaining Matt 24:13.... ....the Jew Matthew, teaching Jews... Why does a man IN Christ have to "ENDURE" to the end? What is he "enduring"? What is the "end"?

Read verse 10...THAT is what SOME people "were".......THEN they WERE, washed, sanctified, justifed....THEREFORE they ARE thus, washed, sanctified, justified. IOW, if you Were washed, you Are washed. If you Were sanctified, you Are sanctified. If youWere justified, you Are justified. God...

The PAYMENT is the DEPOSIT. The REDEMPTION is the Lord CLAIMING the man WHO accepted the Payment of His Deposit. That has already been established. Yes......DURING YOURLIFE TIME....which is during the TIME your flesh BODY, IS naturally ALIVE. And the LIFE of your natural body IS IT"S blood...

So Process away.....the Catholic way. I'll trust the Word of God...Like Protestants do. 1 Cor 6:11 .....ARE washed, ARE sanctified, ARE justified, .....BY the Spirit. We actually CHOOSE OURSELVES to learn ABOUT the Lord, and then CHOOSE OURSELVES to give our Life to the Lord, and are...

I get a visual that your walls are decorated with homemade blue ribbons that say; "I'm right and everyone else is wrong".... Pride suits you.

You did. And the Scriptures you posted did. In order for YOU TO EDUCATE ME....you would have to be my TEACHER.... Isn't that BIG of you....You not only tell me what I think, and speak for me, you have also appointed yourself my teacher. "Mere" knowledge... "Experiential" knowledge.. You...

A man Learning ABOUT the Lord is a process. The act of sanctification is an act of the Lord. My Lords ACTIONS ARE QUICK AND DELIBERATE.

It's pretty sad listening to the few Catholics here desperately trying to be champions of all knowing with a forked tongue.

Uh, so why did you bring up the Eucharist? And Uh, why are you bashing another's faith?

You may have been taught and teach the "real and substantial presence of Jesus "IN" the "Eucharist"..... Jesus simply said DO THIS, in REMEMBRANCE of Him. Jesus IS NOT IN bread and wine....!