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    Eveybody starts the same place

    V40 jesus is warning Believers to be ready The warning coming as a thief in the night isnt for unbelievers but believers... Problem with this osas teaching is this: Once I believed osas and when I had fallen away back to my old life as some of you, I said: well maybe I wont have as big of...
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    Eveybody starts the same place

    2 peter 2:20-22 Everybody starts out in the same place as unbelievers.... 20) once they have escaped the pollutions of the world (only 1 way to do this) Through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (This is that way) (believer now) Then they are entangled Again Then overcome...
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    holy laughter

    You see KATHRYN KRICK does the same stuff, people shaking and falling down and thinking thata the Holy Spirit at work...she was sitting in a chair on a low stage and people come knelling and bringing gifts and she touches them and they start acting the same as Kundalini spirits make hindis act...
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    holy laughter

    You see KATHRYN KRICK does the same stuff, people shaking and falling down and thinking thata the Holy Spirit at work...she was sitting in a chair on a low stage and people come knelling and bringing gifts and she touches them and they start acting the same as Kundalini spirits make hindis act...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    The writer says in verse 38 - 39 I believe this is God speaking in 38) The just shall live by faith alone and if man draws back my soul has no pleasure in him... (So if the just draw back doesnt sound good) But we are not them who draw back to destruction. (Can an unbeliever draw back to...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    Galatians 5:1-4 1) Stand fast in the liberty where Christ has MADE YOU FREE and become not entangled AGAIN in bondage. 2) that if you are circumcised (under the law) Christ shall profit you nothing 4) Christ has become of no effect to you, if you go back under the law - you have Fallen From...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    WHO ME said: 1. Paul in galatians is talking about these believers falling from grace/Christ in Ephesians 2:8 if they go back under the law correct? JUSTIFIED REPLIED: I don’t see anything in the context to suggest he was talking about that. He seems to be talking more about Gentiles being...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    Let me deal with one verse at a time) Paul says in verse 1 for them to STAND FAST in the LIBERTY WHERE CHRIST has made us FREE and become NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN with the yoke of bondage.... that if they go back under the law they will have FALLEN FROM GRACE and Christ has become of no effect...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    1. Paul in galatians is talking about these believers falling from grace/Christ in Ephesians 2:8 if they go back under the law correct? So your problem is you think james is speaking of people who have no works because their not saved in the first place Correct? I want to make sure I...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    So I use verses from james to make my point and the both marks and behold make theirs without addressing james verses... Makes no sense not too unless you cant
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    Behold your just being goofy no one says faith in nothing saves you.... when I say as Ive said above in my original post eph 2:8 which is Gods grace thru faith and you are saved - never says faith in nothing ofcourse it has to be faith in something..... lol
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    Behold said: Whereas the person who is trusting in Christ, understands they are saved already, justified already, born again already, and reconcilled to God forever already, = ''by the one time Eternal Sacrifice of Jesus on The Cross.""" James 2:24 replys you see then how that by WORKS A MAN...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    What is meant by Gods grace THROUGH YOUR FAITH and you are saved? Jesus hanging on the cross (Gods grace) is for all people but ONLY those who believe are saved... so yeah it takes your faith in Gods grace.... if you have no faith it does nothing for you.... 1peter 1:5 Who are kept by the...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    No... you have to have faith with works otherwise your faith becomes Dead, james said it I just pointed it out James 2:20 "but will thou know O VAIN MAN that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    What do you think happens when without works your faith is dead?... answer that Gods grace thru your dead faith
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    you've even changed Scripture to support it. Where?
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    James 2:24 You see then how by WORKS a man is JUSTIFIED and NOT BY FAITH ONLY.... Is not James 2:24 in your bible also? James says it takes both faith and works to be justified.. what happens when you only have faith and not.works? Your no longer justified...geeez Ps saved by faith and...
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    If it takes an alive faith to save you what do you think happens when without works that faith becomes dead..... God then is working with a DEAD FAITH
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    You still dont get it.... james is not talking about eph 2:8 which takes your faith to be saved, he is talking about AFTER AFTER AFTER that when WORKS comes into play.. Ephesians and James are talking about 2 different things as I stated in the original post
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    To be JUSTIFIED

    I believe you have justified works and faith mixed up here by what you say... (1) its talking about faith here and how without works our faith becomes dead.. (2) Abraham first had faith before he was justifed (3) it is Christ death that allows us to be justified through faith At the end of...