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Part II. The rest of your reply, @Fred J, turns on several claims about Mary’s faith, Her role among the earliest believers, the reliability of women’s testimony, and who qualifies as an eyewitness “from the beginning.” But when we compare those claims with what Luke actually writes, they...

Part I. First, earlier you said you agreed that the Shepherds and Magi visited Jesus — and Scripture records those events. But Scripture often reports events without telling us who told the Evangelists about them. That’s normal in ancient writing. The absence of a sentence like “Mary told...

There’s no place in the New Testament where an Evangelist explicitly says, “Mary told me this” or “Joseph told me this.” But the question is indirectly answered by the way the infancy narratives function and by what we know about the early Christian community. First, Joseph disappears from the...

Joseph, Mary, and Jesus were first visited by the Shepherds shortly after Jesus was born in a stable just outside Bethlehem, since there was no room in the town at the time of His birth (Luke 2:3-20). Later, they were visited by the Magi when living in a house in Bethlehem (Matthew 2:9-11).