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B4 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 - was the HS ALWAYS received ONLY by hearing the 'word' ? > NO - were there occasions where LAY & PRAY was required to receive the HS ? > YES .. AFTER 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 - were there ANY occasions where LAY & PRAY was required to receive the HS ? >> NO You are...

Do you accept that Paul taught faith/trust in the death, burial & resurrection of Christ = saved & HS sealed 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13

""There are no astronauts."" That's the type of intelligence that's expected of a FLATTY :gd

""Let me help you out..."" As I shall do for you . 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the...

TECHNICALLY, since you are also an Astronaut who has been in space you are in a position to call your Christian Brother Astronauts LIARS Umm, you have been in space, yes ? :gd ..

.""And also, NASA was founded by an MK Ultra programmer ...Wernher Von Braun."" WRONG !!! NASA was founded by U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who signed the National Aeronautics and Space Act into law on July 29, 1958. FLAT earthers can't even get the facts correct :)

""At the council at Jerusalem (Acts 15) Paul supported Peter's pronouncement that the gentiles should not be required to follow the Law."" Acts 15:11-12... we shall be saved, even as they. Not as B4, but now----we (Peter etc) shall be saved in the same way the Gentiles are now saved. .. And...

""James was writing to the Israel of God, not unbelieving Israel after the flesh"" Gal 2:7-9 - who did the Apostles agree would teach the Gentiles ? .. ""And we are told to run the race lawfully if we are to receive the prize.......otherwise be disqualified.""

""Another point is that we tend to think that an event like the second coming is instantaneous (sudden) when it may well be a process over time"" ... sudden/instant 1 Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised...

""1) We do not, in our works performance, self-atone. Only Christ did works that eternally atoned for our sins. So then why are these 'believers sent to EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT ? Matt 25:- 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire...

Do you believe the UNsaved are included in this group ? :gd 1 Thess 4:- 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up...

Doesn't stop him from being saved :)

You are NOT understanding the question so I'll try another way. Who ENTERS eternal life/joy , the SAVED or the UNsaved ?

Hey Mark, your 2 Thess 1 8 plus 7 is interesting. Looking forward to exchanging views with you on this :) https://www.spiritandtruth.org/questions/386.htm?x=x .. Yes, B4 Eph 1:13, Paul did lay hands & pray for some to receive the HS Then AS OF 1 Cor 15:1-4 Eph 1:13 that was not required. The HS...

""I would venture that the majority of people who have lived on this planet over the last 2000 years..."" AGREED, and that's why I don't understand why some say that they should be punished the same as those who did hear it, understood it then died rejecting it. .. 2 Thess 1:8 AND 7 <<<...

""The good news of the Gospel is this:""" Yes, that is what John taught to his audience. Acts 8:14-17 At times John also had to pray & lay hands for a baptized believer to receive the HS Nowhere is that taught in the Gospel that Christ Gal 1:11-12 revealed to Paul To his audience Paul taught :-...

"""There are millions (billions probably)......"" I too believe that the TRULY ignorant would not judged the same way as those who heard, understood then rejected the Gospel Watch out though Mark, there are those here who will shoot you down for holding a similar view. ... Matt 25:41-46 - Fail...

Agreed. Plus no-one should unfairly judge a Pastor for having/buying/working towards a home to suit the size of his family eg 3 bedroom, lounge, kitchen, family room, carport/garage for a 4 or 5 person family is not unreasonable nor greedy. Greed would be wanting individual rooms for everyone...

Paul was concerned with being DISQUALIFIED from PREACHING but NOT becoming UNsaved, UNsealed. Wanna try again LB ? :gd

Since you are quoting from Matthew. Do you believe Matt 25:41-46 - works REQUIRED contradicts Titus 3:5-7, Gal 2:16, Eph 2:8-9, Rom 3:28, Rom 4:5, Rom 5:1 - works NOT required.