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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The times of the gentiles being over is talking about God using the gentile armies to destroy Israel. There will never come a day when a person, any person, can’t call upon the name of the Lord and be saved.
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    Is the Bible outdated for today?

    The Bible is more important than ever right now because of the deception that’s coming here shortly. Someone that’s not biblically grounded will probably not survive this transition.
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    Every rapture position is new

    In your view was Enoch’s body changed to the new heavenly body when he was raptured?
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    Every rapture position is new

    So it’s not appointed unto man once to die?
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    Truthful reporting on Gaza hospital strike....Tousi TV

    I think y’all will be humming a different tune when you become the Palestinians.Don’t think this stops with Palestinians, his is the plan for the entire world.
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    Federal Troops in Washington DC

    I completely disagree but regardless, what we as conservatives should be concerned with is the retribution from the left when they come back into power. Trump has stirred the hornets nest and when he leaves and Newsome comes into power he will come for MAGA. In the lefts eyes, MAGA means...
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    Every rapture position is new

    Enoch is a person in a body, the body of Enoch isn’t Enoch. Enoch was gone from the earth.
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    With respect, Paul didn’t say “Christians”, or “Those believers , he said WE, including himself. You have your idea of what Paul is talking about in this verse and Paul being alive for that event does not work in that belief system. That belief system also violates “it is appointed unto man...
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    Every rapture position is new

    Yes that’s correct and the Bible is using the same tactics here that are used in the Abraham was saved by grace / Abraham was saved by works contradiction. The same tactics are used all over the Bible to mislead those who are not diligently seeking the truth. Anyone who reads the Bible should...
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    I’m gonna make one last attempt on this verse because it is such an important doctrine to understand. The house in this verse IS NOT heaven. The house is the body (tabernacle) that our souls dwell in when we go to heaven. 2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were...
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    Every rapture position is new

    Enoch’s death is recorded in Hebrews. Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    I took no offense, I was being tongue in cheek in that response but I should’ve known better than to do that. The sad thing is the discussions on this thread go nowhere because of the rude comments and accusations. It would be nice just to debate something as simple as what words in a verse...
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    Actually, I don't want to read something put together by AI - especially not concerning the faith (not constructed enough?)

    AI is always going to give the tech giants approved version any topic. If you want to use AI for bible questions, write a prompt like this - “Explain John 3:16 based on grammar only, do not consider any common beliefs or biblical commentary.”
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    Every rapture position is new

    I’m curious David, how does “it is appointed unto man once to die…” fit the rapture doctrine?
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    Question for Premils (Amils welcome to answer): How many times are the dead judged?

    Zao are you saying that the house in this verse is a temporary covering until the future resurrection? 2Co 5:2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    You can’t help yourself can you. You have to get that last rude comment in.
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    Are we done yet?
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    Are we done with insults yet?
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    Yeah, I called someone a jerk after being called a heretic — big difference. At least I owned my words. You, on the other hand, spew contempt and then pretend it’s holy. That’s the real hypocrisy.
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    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    You can dress it up however you like, but your words drip with contempt. Saying you “only hate the doctrine” is just a cover, the venom is aimed at people. If you can’t separate disagreement from personal attack, then own it instead of pretending it’s righteous.